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Old 04-29-2017, 11:02 AM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by mightleavenyc View Post
He was proven right. Obama has not yet apologized.
Link????

 
Old 04-29-2017, 11:04 AM
 
Location: FL
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I don't think Obama apologized, no.
because he has no reason to. That was all in Trump's head and he never did supply the proof.
 
Old 04-29-2017, 11:07 AM
 
Location: FL
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You're a Gruber, aren't you? Sad.
I guess that means you have nothing to back it up, again?
 
Old 04-29-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Donna-501 View Post
because he has no reason to. That was all in Trump's head and he never did supply the proof.

Trump did not present any evidence when he made the accusation. No evidence has emerged since.

It was a lie meant to distract from Flynn and it worked.

However, if you only watch Fox News, follow Breitbart and Trump, how would a person know that?
 
Old 04-29-2017, 12:55 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by GotHereQuickAsICould View Post
Trump did not present any evidence when he made the accusation. No evidence has emerged since.

It was a lie meant to distract from Flynn and it worked.

However, if you only watch Fox News, follow Breitbart and Trump, how would a person know that?
Everything else is "fake news".
 
Old 04-29-2017, 02:52 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Originally Posted by mightleavenyc View Post
He was proven right. Obama has not yet apologized.
I think you hit the nail on the head! Even though it may not have literally been a wiretap inside Trump Tower the politically motivated surveillance of the Trump team was close enough. Basically Trump got this one right.

I assume the Tweet was based upon Trump's being aware of information being divulged of which only an insider or someone privy to leaked information would be aware.
 
Old 04-29-2017, 04:33 PM
 
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I think you hit the nail on the head! Even though it may not have literally been a wiretap inside Trump Tower the politically motivated surveillance of the Trump team was close enough. Basically Trump got this one right.

I assume the Tweet was based upon Trump's being aware of information being divulged of which only an insider or someone privy to leaked information would be aware.
No it is not "close enough." It is not anywhere near close. If Trump became aware of some information that indicated he was monitored, now would be the time to spit it out.

The evidence points to Trump surrounding himself with Russian agents. These guys started turning up in counterespionage and criminal (Russian money laundering, likely) investigations around the world and they alerted the FBI and NSA.

There was also server with some highly unusual traffic that the FBI/NSA got a FISA warrant to monitor. The evidence points to someone on team Trump, Carter Page most likely, sending data back and forth, such as hacked data bases used in targeted social media campaigns.

Have to wait for the investigations and hearings, of course. But it looks like Trump surrounded himself with those working with the Kremlin to steal the election -- Stone, Manafort, Page, Flynn, Epshteyn, ...

Now you can believe whatever you want, and I'm sure you will.

But it's pretty clear at this point that the people being monitored were Russian spies.

Why Trump surrounded himself with Russian agents is yet to be determined.

Trump did not get this one right either.




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Old 04-29-2017, 08:07 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Why does the left hold Trump to a higher standard than they held Obama?
Might have something to do with these:

100 days of Trump whoppers

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...k-updates.html

And, saving the best for last:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.eb5b2fbdc1dc

The foregoing is updated daily because, of course, the lying never stops. To date, at least 469 since he took office, never mind the 1000s told on the campaign trail.

Trump has raised lying to an art form. There will soon be classes given at universities on how Trump bamboozled the stupid among us by consistently lying to the point it didn't matter anymore, and the psychology of the fools who bought into those lies.

There is NO politician past or present who has EVER lied with the frequency of Donald Trump.

To the point that world leaders and diplomats have now decided to ignore his words.

Last edited by Ariadne22; 04-29-2017 at 09:10 PM.. Reason: The Consummate Liar
 
Old 04-29-2017, 08:13 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Originally Posted by Donna-501 View Post
Everything else is "fake news".
you got that right.

And there's a lot of fake news being spread here, too, by the left.
 
Old 04-29-2017, 08:27 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by Ariadne22 View Post
Might have something to do with these:

100 days of Trump whoppers

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...k-updates.html

And, saving the best for last:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.eb5b2fbdc1dc

The foregoing is updated regularly because, of course, the lying never stops. To date, at least 469 since he took office, never mind the 1000s told on the campaign trail.

Trump has raised lying to an art form. There will soon be classes given at universities on how Trump bamboozled the stupid among us by consistently lying to the point it didn't matter anymore.

There is NO politician past or present who has EVER lied with the frequency of Donald Trump.

To the point that world leaders and diplomats have now decided to ignore his words.
"You always want to go by what's come out of his mouth rather than look at what's in his heart.”
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