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He is very familiar with how the Intel community is supposed to work.
He's exposing unlawful, unethical workings of the Intel community. He saw documents with names that were not redacted.
One does not take that to the very people who have violated the law within the community, -- would you?
That would do nothing other than to help cover up, and he would then become part of the problem.
Reason seems to be escaping the left.
From his (and the spokesman) statements not to mention the IC analyst best "guess" of the somewhat rambling interviews, the names that Nunes appears to have seen were in the contents of the conversations - Trump etc. was the subject of conversations among foreigners picked up under a FISA NOT one of the conversation participants. Turns out that US citizen reference names should also be masked so Nunes can legitimately use that term for them (though I don't know if there are differing standards for unmasking them).
I get reporters not making context clear but it's precisely because Nunes is so very familiar with the workings of the Intel community AND is paid by public tax dollars that I think he has some obligation not to deliberately mislead here.
But being clear wouldn't give him the headline wanted in his defense of Trump - that there was "incidental surveillance" of Trump or that the Obama Administration spied on him. That foreigners gossiped about Trump - and even that some of the gossip may have been spread a bit too widely within the IC doesn't carry the same impact.
Nunes still hopes for the more damning umasked incidental contact but even there it looks like someone will have to try to figure how why it was unmasked. The plan is to set House Intel lawyers to work on whatever he extracts from the IC? And after this we are to believe him and his employees impartial?
Except the one point y'all keep on passing over which is that Nunes clearly said that what he saw had NOTHING to do with the Russian investigation which is what they are looking into.
Accidentally overlooking that little item or do y'all have another agenda?
Errr, could it have been part of a different investigation?
Mr Nunes and Schiff both of them should recuse or show the proof of their allegations. There are so many committee members openly talking about lot of stuff. We seem to have suddenly problem with Nunes. He should release full report it to public.
It's because that even with all the political crap that goes on there still are "rules" that work to maintain some facade of civility - break those rules and even the semblance of what passes for useful work goes down the drain.
Fellow Republicans warned Nunes not to backstab Schiff with the end run to the WH to generate headlines in defense of Trump - who LIKEWISE was in trouble for violating an unwritten rule -
Don't make unfounded accusations against a predecessor who was a sitting President of the US (in a way that questions a free transference of power - interference in the election).
Trump's tweets have been noticeably cleaned up in the last couple of weeks - but the damage from their inherent lack of civility, the seeming disregard of the norms of our political discourse continues here on this thread.
I, for one, am looking forward to the complete list of all the investigations that Trump and the team have shown up in.
If you're curious about Mr Trump's history of investigations, his ties to Russian criminal activities literally go back 3 decades. Mr Trump should really be used to the drill by now, he's been around the block more than a few times. This more recent fiasco was from 2010:
Quote:
...The most obvious example is Trump Soho, a complicated web of financial intrigue that has played out in court. A lawsuit claimed that the business group, Bayrock, underpinning Trump Soho was supported by criminal Russian financial interests. While its initial claim absolved Trump of knowledge of those activities, Trump himself later took on the group’s principal partner as a senior advisor in the Trump organization.
“Tax evasion and money-laundering are the core of Bayrock’s business model,” the lawsuit said of the financiers behind Trump Soho. The financing came from Russian-affiliated business interests that engaged in criminal activities, it said. “(But) there is no evidence Trump took any part in, or knew of, their racketeering.” ...
Mr Trump should consider himself fortunate than he no longer has to pay his own legal fees (or not pay them if he didn't feel like it). Lucky us we the people got rooked into paying up to defend this one trick pony of a President.
How many times does it have to be stated that the names of US citizens do not need to be masked if knowing their identities is important to understanding the context of the communication? This also goes to "incidental collection". They do not need to stop collection once a US citizen is introduced if it is mportant to understanding the context of the communication.
Also from the article link you posted:
But if the NSA or another agency with which NSA is sharing the information, like the FBI, wants to identify the person, it can do so if it believes it's necessary in the course of investigations or have probable cause to indicate there may be criminal conduct involved.
Nines is giving another press conference as I post this.
He's dancing and attempting damage control. Says what he knows thus far is that new documents show evidence that Trump Tower was NOT " wiretapped" and that thus far, all surveilience appears legal.
Still not clear why he chose to not disclose to his own committee and instead make contact with the WH.
As an aside, Manafort's attorney has offered to make his client available for questioning. It's unknown if this would be in closed or public session.
You can underline it, capitalize it, but in bold and italics, but Nunse still had no business trotting over to Trump with this information from the intelligence services.
Congress has a Constitutional responsibility to oversee the executive branch, not run cover for it.
Or do ya'll have another agenda?
nunes is a republican. His first loyalty is to his party and his friends, not to some position he holds.
How many times does it have to be stated that the names of US citizens do not need to be masked if knowing their identities is important to understanding the context of the communication? This also goes to "incidental collection". They do not need to stop collection once a US citizen is introduced if it is mportant to understanding the context of the communication.
Also from the article link you posted:
But if the NSA or another agency with which NSA is sharing the information, like the FBI, wants to identify the person, it can do so if it believes it's necessary in the course of investigations or have probable cause to indicate there may be criminal conduct involved.
I appreciate your dedication to the truth.
Of course, people want to keep their names hidden, or "masked" if you will, when they get caught up in criminal and counterespionage investigations.
So the question is, who stands to benefit from this latest kerfuffle from the Republicans?
Seems that the Nunes may have run to Ryan and then on to Trump because the person who was "incidentally surveilled" may have been Pence talking with Manafort.
Seems Manafort was big supporter of picking Pence as VP.
Who knows whether this is true or not, but Bill Palmer often seems to nail what's going on.
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we the people got rooked into paying up to defend this one trick pony of a President.
