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Old 03-23-2017, 06:29 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Not to worry about anything. Putin will grant political asylum and Trump and his cronies will be winging their way to Moscow.

Or maybe Putin will decide to have THEM assassinated!

 
Old 03-24-2017, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Elgin, Illinois
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Originally Posted by dashrendar4454 View Post
What got more attention from the media in October?

Wikileaks or the leaked Access Hollywood tape and Trump tax returns ?
The Clinton and Dem leaks had been going around for months, why do you think so many hated Clinton. And then 2 weeks before election it was dominated by new email scandal.
 
Old 03-24-2017, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Or maybe Putin will decide to have THEM assassinated!
hahaha We all know that's the type of job for the Clintons.
 
Old 03-25-2017, 05:18 AM
 
Location: A State of Mind
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What Nunes did is so bizarre that one has to wonder what is going on here? Does Trump have something on him? Why would he risk his position for the nutjob in the WH? And now, some are questioning if the 'report' he was talking about actually came from the WH.

His fellow committee members have no idea where he is getting anything from, or what it is he is getting. Donny may have pushed him into this corner by actually summoning him to the WH to help him appear to be telling the truth with his lies about Obama.

This is all very very strange. Crazy Trump is giving out bizarre interviews and saying ever more bizarre things. It is almost like being back in Birtherworld. We need a special counsel. Nunes cannot be trusted obviously, so should step aside. It feels eerily like pre-Watergate days with all kinds of fog and cover-ups going on.
Yep. Trump gets to have an amazing and fantastic reality show.
 
Old 03-25-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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So you really think Russians hacking and releasing damaging info on the dems had no effect on people?
It doesn't matter if it did or did not. True information is true. You can't call "interference" because a third party made your enemy aware of true damaging information. If you can, then we can for any damaging information released by anyone. Your logic has no foundation.

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The Russians also hacked the Republicans, but released no info on them, they clearly didn't want the Dems to win.
It's your conjecture that they had damaging information, and nothing more. This statement is vapor. Everyone has a political opinion, It doesn't matter what the Russians wanted any more than it matters what the people who released the access hollywood tape wanted.

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The hacks didn't have to convince everyone but considering how polarizing both candidates were and the large percentage of undecided voters, that had to have an effect on who you decided to vote for.
No, it did not "have to" have an effect on anything.

By stating this, you are effectively removing the individual agency of voters, which holds that they can sort through information, make decisions in regard to its validity, and form an individual opinion in politics: which is not your right to do.

Essentially, you are invalidating the votes of United States citizens.

This is viciously anti-democratic, and can not be allowed to stand. These people have as much right to the validity of their vote as you do, in spite of any information that is available. These people are not impaired nor are they felons. Yet, your line of logic seeks to invalidate their vote by implying that they do not have enough free agency and competence to sort through all information that is available.

I know that communists ultimately rely on dictatorships, but that's not how we do things in the United States.

This is why your line of reasoning will ultimately fail on the national stage. You simply cannot effectively invalidate votes because of any information that is available.

Last, should we retrace our steps in history to seek out all of the liberal media lies that may have influenced elections for liberals? Why would supposedly Russian facilitated truth be more scandalous than American liberal sourced lies? The answer is that it wouldn't.

You people are opening a can of worms here that you aren't prepared to manage. Your lack of logic and short-time horizon, in terms of our shared democracy, is alarming.
 
Old 03-25-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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Because he can't be trusted.
And what Democrat Senators can conservatives trust?
 
Old 03-25-2017, 08:52 AM
 
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Originally Posted by msgsing View Post
Not to worry about anything. Putin will grant political asylum and Trump and his cronies will be winging their way to Moscow.
I'm looking forward to when the Red baiting gets really revved up and we wholesale purge this nation of any socialist and communist influence.

You know, as a preventative measure.

Hardcore libs might find themselves on a shared flight with your boogeymen.
 
Old 03-25-2017, 09:25 AM
 
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There is absolutely NO evidence of anything. Fake news and a lie of a thread.
You are SO wrong--
I think they are much more likely to take them down from money-laundering though than treason
It will be much easier to find proof of the money vs the treason
Plus RICO statues allow confiscation of all illegally gained property so the government debt could be significantly reduced if someone like Wilbur Ross or Trump could be caught in the Venn-diagram snare...

And you won't get anyone to roll on Putin--that is a death sentence...
 
Old 03-25-2017, 09:29 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Enigma777 View Post
What Nunes did is so bizarre that one has to wonder what is going on here? Does Trump have something on him? Why would he risk his position for the nutjob in the WH? And now, some are questioning if the 'report' he was talking about actually came from the WH.

His fellow committee members have no idea where he is getting anything from, or what it is he is getting. Donny may have pushed him into this corner by actually summoning him to the WH to help him appear to be telling the truth with his lies about Obama.

This is all very very strange. Crazy Trump is giving out bizarre interviews and saying ever more bizarre things. It is almost like being back in Birtherworld. We need a special counsel. Nunes cannot be trusted obviously, so should step aside. It feels eerily like pre-Watergate days with all kinds of fog and cover-ups going on.
There is a story that Nunes was on an Uber ride with one of his aides the night before he went to Trump and had those two press conferences--
He got a phone call--immediately stopped the Uber--and left the ride--
Did not come back---did not tell the aide what was going on...
THAT is really strange behavior----especially not to even give the aide a heads' up about what was going on...
And no explanation has materialized since apparently...
So to me the most likely person who would have the POWER to compel Nunes to stop what he is doing--
Get out of that ride to some destination/obligation--And just drop everything--would seem to be the Prez...
 
Old 03-25-2017, 12:01 PM
 
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Originally Posted by i_love_autumn View Post
EXACTLY! Great thread, thanks! Can't wait till all the Russian agents in the WH are hauled off for treason! We all should demand a return of the death penalty for traitors!
A traitor is someone who betrays his country. Now how do you figure Trump betrayed his country?
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