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Old 03-24-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Don't be mad, they still have 7.75 years!
No they don't. Chester Cheetah is going to be a one term despot er I mean "presidente"
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:41 PM
 
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Trump blaming Democrats for the failure of the Republican health care bill proves that he is the most immature and incompetent president to ever serve as president of the United States.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:41 PM
 
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No, do you even know the issues with this?

Ryancare is too much like Obamacare, they would not listen to Rand Paul, they dion't want to repeal Obamacare, they just want to adjust it (which is what the whole Ryancare is).

The conservatives don't want Obamacare lite, 2.0 or compromise, we want it gone, no preexisting conditions, no special deals with insurance companies to do back door tax mandates, etc... We don't want "handout care" or "Single moocher" or "Universal Leech", we want a free system that empowers the individual to choose as they see fit, under their own responsibility and without government in our face.


That is why the damn bill failed.

Maybe if you people spent more time actually thinking for yourselves rather than toeing the line of your parties ideology, you might understand what actually happened here.
No preexisting conditions? That's the main thing they need to save.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:41 PM
 
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...They should take that and absolutely run with it, come up with a plan that improves on Obamacare, and fulfills Trump's campaign promise to see that all Americans are covered. If he has constructive ideas to bring to the table, they should listen, but they should not, under any circumstances, let him off the hook for that promise.
Ask and you shall receive. Here it is, the Democratic alternative to TrumpCare:

H.R. 676 Expanded & Improved Medicare For All Act

72 Democrats have co-sponsored this bill. Medicare For All is the single best way to provide healthcare for all by eliminating $400 billion of excess overhead and profit paid to myraid of insurance companies.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:42 PM
 
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NO. Get rid of Medicare and Medicaid. Get rid of healthcare insurance unless a person chooses to buy into that scam. Get rid of ALL government regulations and laws regarding healthcare or healthcare insurance.

This and only this will fix the outrageous costs of healthcare in this country. An unregulated free market WILL provide the best choices, the lowest costs and the best care available. It is an undeniable fact of economics.

Utter nonsense. You seriously believe people can pay for things like heart surgeries, CT scans, neurosurgeries, etc, out of their pocket? Or that giving the HC industry free reign will lower prices? One of my best friends is an executive in a HC company, and formerly a VP of a major hospital. And he admits that health care today is largely a scam for profit on Americans.

What planet do you live on?
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:42 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Maybe the Republicans should read Al Franken's book about their party ...Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them to figure out how to fix themselves and their ...healthplan!
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:42 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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If it doesn't pass (single payer), then you take the issue to the people and get people elected who will pass it. That is how it is supposed to work. Unfortunately today's Democrats prefer oligarchy and authoritarianism to our constitutional republic.
Nope..I prefer an Omnibus bill that Repeals the ACA and establishes a single-payer system, in one fell swoop.
That's..how it's supposed to work, in our constitutional republic.


The bold...is that not what we are evolving to...in DC...right in front of our faces?
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:42 PM
 
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If it doesn't pass (single payer), then you take the issue to the people and get people elected who will pass it. That is how it is supposed to work. Unfortunately today's Democrats prefer oligarchy and authoritarianism to our constitutional republic.
They won't get it passed because they don't work for us. Isn't it clear to you yet? They work for the donor class and Wall Street. I know how it's supposed to work. But it doesn't. If you think D.C. Is watching out for our interests, I'm afraid that ship sailed a long time ago. Both parties.
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:43 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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Republicans are inept as today has proven. And now they will proceed to eat their own.

Oh yes! And we all see how "ept" the Democrats are. If you live in glass houses......
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Old 03-24-2017, 07:43 PM
 
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He lives in a country where the state views him as a peasant, a subject, lesser than. He has no inalienable rights that were endowed by a power above the state and not within the bounds of the state to dictate. His rights are subject to the state which can change them and remove them as it sees fit.
Laughable, as Americans are the most gullible and easily manipulated people in the Western world (although I don't blame them for this). Who is above the state in your country? We all know it's not the American people. Be truthful.
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