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Old 03-24-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Bel Air, California
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Oh it's a defeat alright. By his own party members. Viva Trump!

support America, sign Adrian!
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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Democrats and Republicans failed we the people big time here.
Republicans have a 237 to 193 majority in the House - they don't need the Democrats to pass a bill.

The news is that the Republicans couldn't muster 218 yeas out of their own 237 representatives.

This is a Republican fail.
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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It doesn't have to be put back in the barn. I watched Ryan's presentation on C-SPAN, and his proposal to cover those with costly pre-existing conditions was to utilize the States' high risk insurance pools, which already existed, and require them to cover ongoing medical expenses for pre-existing conditions while providing government subsidies to help cut the costs of that insurance for the insured.

That removes those who are costly to insure from the main insurance pool, which then reduces the cost of insurance premiums/deductibles for everyone else.

Where is the money coming from?
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Trump and the GOP are a hot mess...they've been running around DC and the rest of the country promising to kill ObamaCare and failed and failed miserably. What a spectacular and fiery crash. GOP in turmoil. This is only the beginning. Trump will destroy that party for generations to come.
yep, and they needed this to pass their tax cuts in reconciliation, with that out of the question they won't be rush their plan through to give huge tax breaks to all their billionaire friends
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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If ALL people with pre-existing conditions were thrown on the mercy of charities, how long do you think it would be before charities were tapped out?


And let's not forget all of the other people you would put at the mercy of charity, like those on welfare and food stamps, etc.


Leaving care to a hodgepodge of charities would turn into a giant dog eat dog cluster **** with thousands upon thousands of people, including children, falling through the cracks, left to suffer or die.
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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Republicans have a 237 to 193 majority in the House - they don't need the Democrats to pass a bill.

The news is that the Republicans couldn't muster 218 yeas out of their own 237 representatives.

This is a Republican fail.
It's a tRUMP fail. The GOP House just showed him who's boss.
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Originally Posted by bentlebee View Post
People can start throwing all the childish names, but isn't it better and smarter that if it needs to be changed to make a decision and go back to the drawing board!

Liberals are for pushing bad bills through! We know it as we found out the hard way with Obama trash care!
Indeed...if. It would appear that most do not think so.
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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I am looking at this seeing Trump does not have a clue.

Trump was golfing when he should have been working the bill. Trump does not understand this is not Real estate, it is grinding work 24/7 Trump is wholly unfit to lead any nation. He just does not have the required stamina.

Trump calling Costa is Trump trying to control the message, he knows that that he is humiliated thus calls to make sure he can blame.

Blame Ryan blame Pence, blame blame blame.


Art of the fail.

Failed Muslim ban 1

Failed Muslim ban 2

Failed Trumpcare 1

Failed Wiretap lies.

Trump swore he had a healthcare plan ready to go day one. Where is it?


Trump swore he had an ISIS plan ready to go day one..... WHERE IS IT?


Trump swore he had a Jobs plans, we would be tired of winning... where is it?


Trump tried to steal the insurance of 24 million Americans and give 300 billion to the wealthiest 2% .



where is your deal maker?
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Mount Dora, FL
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Republicans have had 7 years to fix ACA. They have absolutely nothing to fix it with. They're failures.
Spot on...There is no way to spin this epic failure. The moment they've been waiting for and they couldn't even get it to the floor for a vote. GOP might as well be lapdogs.
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:03 PM
 
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thanks I was on here at work- no TV-- now I see - this is a plus for Americans really- but they cant just walk away --- back to the drawing board after your hangovers!!
Trump did say he would not offer any other plan.

Which I think is kind of spiteful.....but he has his negotiating techniques you know.
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