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No, people actually like most of the Affordable Care Act
Right . That's why over eight years post-passage the elections that have been fought with it as a primary issue* have collectively resulted in a decisive victory for the party promising full repeal "root and branch" and every single referendum that's been held on it at the state level has resulted in a repudiation of it.
Face it: Nancy Pelosi would not be the Minority Leader and Hillary Clinton would be in the White House if anyone liked Obamacare. If Obamacare worked East Tennessee would have a plethora of insurers on the market rather than none - none. How your ilk believe an insurance market can function, let alone succeed, with one or no insurers is beyond my comprehension.
*As for the 2012 election the GOP put up the architect of Obamacare 1.0 (Romney) and Obama's base rallied to him one last time while laboring under the delusion they were going to receive cost-free health care or that he would fix it or whatever.
No, people actually like most of the Affordable Care Act.
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Originally Posted by Patricius Maximus
Right .
Read again, this time for comprehension.
I said people actually like most of the ACA.
It's already been shown that when pollsters ask people about whether they like Obamacare, a bare majority of people say no. But when pollsters ask people if they like having expanded health insurance to cover the uninsured, or they like having a pre-existing condition waiver, or they like having the ability to carry their 18-26 year old sons/daughters on their health insurance, people overwhelming like most of the features of Obamacare.
Ryancare was bad and trump got involved and made change to buy off the freedom caucus and made it worse. Trumpcare is worse than ryancare.
This is basically it. Ryancare was terrible, the Freedom Caucus was against it because it wasn't far right enough so Trump worked on it to get concessions to the Freedom Caucus such as removing more coverage Materinty Care, ER care, Outpatient, etc. Once that went through the moderates revolted.
And all of these things are trivia when held against the core cause of the "healthcare" crisis. The outrageous costs. The blank check that the healthcare corporate conglomerates have written themselves. The racket that they milk for stratospheric $profits$ having no relationship with actual costs. The con that they have thus far eluded accountability for since pricing has long been cleverly concealed from consumers.
No proposal thus far has done anything to address the fact that this industry is extorting at an obscene level from our GNP. Al Capone never had it so good.
Paul Ryan is in a bad way. His bill, Ryancare, which some say was written by insurance industry, is failing. He can't get Republicans to support it because it's a bad bill, and Democrats won't support it of course because of simple partisan reasons.
Wonder if Ryan will survive it politically if it fails. Remember this is same person who ran on the ticket against the worst President in US history in 2012, and still lost.
If by some miracle he gets it through the House, Tom Cotton is going to nix it in the Senate.
Unpopular is why the dems had to tell the American people you can't see it now, you can't see the details......'we have to pass if to find out what is in it'.
that the mistake the repubs made..they should have just told the people we have to pass it to find out what is in it.
Right . That's why over eight years post-passage the elections that have been fought with it as a primary issue* have collectively resulted in a decisive victory for the party promising full repeal "root and branch" and every single referendum that's been held on it at the state level has resulted in a repudiation of it.
Face it: Nancy Pelosi would not be the Minority Leader and Hillary Clinton would be in the White House if anyone liked Obamacare. If Obamacare worked East Tennessee would have a plethora of insurers on the market rather than none - none. How your ilk believe an insurance market can function, let alone succeed, with one or no insurers is beyond my comprehension.
*As for the 2012 election the GOP put up the architect of Obamacare 1.0 (Romney) and Obama's base rallied to him one last time while laboring under the delusion they were going to receive cost-free health care or that he would fix it or whatever.
The GOP has been drilling this point home for 7 years claiming that the ACA was a disaster, there are problems with Obamacare but it still benefits people. Before the election you are correct their marketing scheme worked, the ACA was unpopular. That changed after the election when these people realized the mistake they had made in electing someone that would take away their benefits.
Instead of reasonable attempts to correct the problems such ass you mentioned in East Tennessee they only wanted repeal and kept up with the death spiral nonsense and votes to repeal.
Right . That's why over eight years post-passage the elections that have been fought with it as a primary issue* have collectively resulted in a decisive victory for the party promising full repeal "root and branch" and every single referendum that's been held on it at the state level has resulted in a repudiation of it.
Face it: Nancy Pelosi would not be the Minority Leader and Hillary Clinton would be in the White House if anyone liked Obamacare. If Obamacare worked East Tennessee would have a plethora of insurers on the market rather than none - none. How your ilk believe an insurance market can function, let alone succeed, with one or no insurers is beyond my comprehension.
*As for the 2012 election the GOP put up the architect of Obamacare 1.0 (Romney) and Obama's base rallied to him one last time while laboring under the delusion they were going to receive cost-free health care or that he would fix it or whatever.
And yet, recent polls show that the ACA/Obamacare are more popular than ever. Joni Mitchell was right, "Don't it always seem to go that you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone."
The fact just is, Democrats are good at governing but not good at getting elected. While, Republicans are good at getting elected but suk at governing.
Seems a PAC accidentally aired television ads (during the basketball tournaments) in four markets congratulating House members for repealing Obamacare. Oops!
And all of these things are trivia when held against the core cause of the "healthcare" crisis. The outrageous costs. The blank check that the healthcare corporate conglomerates have written themselves. The racket that they milk for stratospheric $profits$ having no relationship with actual costs. The con that they have thus far eluded accountability for since pricing has long been cleverly concealed from consumers.
No proposal thus far has done anything to address the fact that this industry is extorting at an obscene level from our GNP. Al Capone never had it so good.
What you and many others didn't know was that the ACA took that into consideration. That's what happens when people spend a year working out a plan instead of rushing something to Congress' floor for a vote. According to the LA Times, The "ACA limits on corporate tax deductions for executive pay. The cost to the American taxpayer of eliminating this provision: well in excess of $70 million a year." That piece got removed from Trumpcare, because the GOP are shills for corporations.
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. That's why over eight years post-passage the elections that have been fought with it as a primary issue* have collectively resulted in a decisive victory for the party promising full repeal "root and branch" and every single referendum that's been held on it at the state level has resulted in a repudiation of it.
