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Old 03-24-2017, 03:28 PM
 
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No time given; sometime after Ryan is done with his press conference.
How does this worthless thread intro not get deleted? No substance, no link, just one sentence that says the sun rises in the East.

Low bar.
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:28 PM
 
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Because haters don't care. Haters only care that Trump comes out looking bad. That's their #1 priority.
Know what, Marino?

I'm hoping that this is President Trump's wake up call.

That he can't run the Presidency like he was an unopposed CEO.

Political wisdom says that if you're gonna pull a boner as the President, it's best to do it early in your first year. Donald Trump may still have an acceptable presidency, but he's going to have to learn to reach across the aisle and find a working middle ground.
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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The "best thing that could have happened"? So much BS. That is something manipulative losers say when they fail- spin it that their failure was in some way positive. Just a couple days ago he said he was behind the bill "one thousand percent". How is the failure of something he was so solidly supporting the best thing?! If it sucked why was he so gung ho for it?
Furthermore the fact hes good with letting Obamacare "explode" on the people (again the red states first) and saying the next move is up to democrats.


What happens when it explodes? Is that the wonderful thing? Just so he can blame the democrats some more. What about the people affected?... he didn't seem to show much sympathy for them if the system is so broken.
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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We ALL want a better health care bill. But Trump and the Republicans thought they could charge and fix problems that have bamboozled much smarter and harder working men than Trump and Paul Ryan. We all want good, consistent care for everyone, even people who can't afford it. The question is, and always has been, how to pay for it.

Please allow us Trump haters a few minutes to gloat. He's a lying, condescending windbag who said, "Only I can fix it." It gives us pleasure to watch him eat his words.

After the gloating, I'd be happy to support bipartisan legislation that will address how to pay for quality health care for all Americans.
I'm glad to hear that. You certainly are allowed to gloat. I want real health care reform and don't care what side of the isle it comes from. The healthcare system in this country is a disaster. That said, I'm glad Ryan's bill went down in flames. It went in the wrong direction.
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:29 PM
 
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How does this worthless thread intro not get deleted? No substance, no link, just one sentence that says the sun rises in the East.

Low bar.
Is this your first time in the venerable Politics and Other Controversies forum?
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:32 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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The resident group of Demo-Stoops kick their little feet and clap their little hands with glee.

Meanwhile healthcare costs in Arizona have doubled for 2017, and most people can't afford the health coverage that they have. In fact, the only people who can "afford" health insurance are the ones who don't really pay for it themselves and qualify for assistance.

But it's a Democratic program so it must be defended. Democratic programs first!......after that, nothing else matters.
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:34 PM
 
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The "best thing that could have happened"? So much BS. That is something manipulative losers say when they fail- spin it that their failure was in some way positive. Just a couple days ago he said he was behind the bill "one thousand percent". How is the failure of something he was so solidly supporting the best thing?! If it sucked why was he so gung ho for it?
Furthermore the fact hes good with letting Obamacare "explode" on the people (again the red states first) and saying the next move is up to democrats.


What happens when it explodes? Is that the wonderful thing? Just so he can blame the democrats some more. What about the people affected?... he didn't seem to show much sympathy for them if the system is so broken.
Oh get off your hating high horse for a moment. Trump never like this bill but had to go for it since he had no support from Dems for anything else and wasn't about to throw republicans under the bus. He knew it wasn't going to pass and didn't want it to pass, that's why he told republicans to vote today or scrap it.
He also said he didn't want Obamacare to explode but it's going to regardless of his personal feeling about it. You should be rejoicing that he said the next move is the Democrats. Now that this piece of crap bill failed, he can now work with dems in getting real health care reform done.
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The fact that Trump is very liberal on this issue and more than likely will agree with them if they propose a new bill that has a chance of working.

Then why did he go all out to pass Trump Care?


Why didn't he send Ryan back to the drawing board in the first place? "No Paul, I can't support this plan. It doesn't fulfill the promises I made to the people." That's all he had to say, yet he didn't.


IMO, Trump's main objective is to feather his own nest and he needs Republican support to do it...... for one, the tax plan that is going to benefit him BIGLY. Healthcare? .....he really didn't care either way as it won't effect him or his family as they can easily afford whatever care they will ever need.
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:45 PM
 
Location: New Market, MD
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speaking at oval office? Is Tweeter down or what??
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Old 03-24-2017, 03:45 PM
 
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Then why did he go all out to pass Trump Care?


Why didn't he send Ryan back to the drawing board in the first place? "No Paul, I can't support this plan. It doesn't fulfill the promises I made to the people." That's all he had to say, yet he didn't.


IMO, Trump's main objective is to feather his own nest and he needs Republican support to do it...... for one, the tax plan that is going to benefit him BIGLY. Healthcare? .....he really didn't care either way as it won't effect him or his family as they can easily afford whatever care they will ever need.
First off, this was Ryan's bill, not Trump's. Trump openly supported it because he needs to work with Republicans or lose their support with future bills.
Trump would like nothing more than universal health care. Reps won't even consider it. Now it's the dems turn to give Trump real reform or at least do something to improve Obamacare and make it more universal and affordable.
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