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Lol, endless excuses from the far right. Any thread with "liberals" in the title, like this one, is going to be a fact-free whine-fest.
The Dumpster in chief and his right-wing cronies control the show, and they still failed. This comes as no surprise to those of us who voted against those fools, knowing full well that they lack the skills to govern, much less even create or pass laws that are worth anything. They've built their careers for the past decade (longer, in some cases) on being useless, do-nothing idiots who basically want to destroy the government and replace it with an unaccountable oligarchy of their cronies. It should surprise no one that after years of that foolishness, they can't govern at all when put in a position of leadership.
Trump's mistakes are as endless as his ego, but "working with liberals" wasn't one of them. In reality, he didn't try to "work with" anyone - he just threatened people, as he always does, while his worthless stooges slapped together an idiotic healthcare law that makes the overall mediocrity of the ACA look like genius in comparison. Then, the regressive right-wingers once again proved why they are useless and cannot be trusted to run a lemonade stand, much less the nation, while Trump went outside to play in a big-rig, honking the horn with a lot of noise and pretending to drive - a perfect summary of his presidency so far.
I personally would have been perfectly fine with repealing Obamacare and not replacing it with anything. I know that myself, my family, and almost everyone I know would have been better off, since our health care was fine before Obamacare came along. The "increased uninsured" really is just the people who gained insurance under Obamacare, most of whom are self-entitled freeloaders and leeches who contribute nothing to society and yet want free benefits. Many of them are also illegal aliens and anchor babies. Many also live in the inner-city and are used to generational welfare dependency.
Maybe Trump shouldn't have kept any of the provisions? That probably would have gotten more conservative Republican votes and got the repeal bill passed. I disagree with the age 26 thing because kids should learn to be independent. I think age 23 is the absolute max that a "child" should be covered under their parents' insurance. But I guess in a world where college students and "young adults" still need safe spaces with teddy bears age 24 or 25 isn't truly grown up yet especially if they go to college.
Trump overall DOES NOT Have to reach out to the liberals. Nothing he does will ever satisfy them, but can cost him support among his base. He won this election with his base and as long as he keeps his base satisfied and sticks to his guns, he can win AGAIN without the votes of liberals and Democrats. I sure hope he never compromises on the wall or on deporting illegals.
^ this is literally one of the most clueless posts I have ever read on this forum ... and I have read alot of BS on here. I don't even know where to begin in order to refute your statements. For starters, Trump never bothered to reach out to Democrats, the only people he tried to placate were the far-right Freedom Caucus nutjobs who want to see people suffer and die.
My only advice, enter the real world. It's a very different world out there than when you grew up.
The problem is that the leadership on both sides is extreme. And they control committee assignments, campaign funding, etc. For anything to change, the rank and file would have to elect new leadership. I don't see that happening.
The first problem is finding someone who would even want to be Speaker of the House.
Taking that job is like volunteering to be Henry VIII's next wife or raising your hand when someone asks "Who wants a crap sandwich?".
Since you asked:
I am paying near $700.00 per month for my health insurance coverage. I have a $3000.00 deductible. Doctors visits cost me $30.00 per. I don't have to meet my deductible to pay that $30.00.
I am well past the age where I need either BC or maternity coverage, however, I do need yearly colonoscopies and other screenings pertinent to my age that younger women don't need.
Having policies that cover all of those things seems the only fair way to spread the costs evenly to everyone.
That is unreal. I pay a little more than that for my federal and provincial income taxes, have no deductible on health care and a doctor's visit is include, in fact all of them are. I do pay about 100 per month on supplemental for my medicine and eye glasses etc. One hundred per year deductible, eye exams and eyeglasses every second year and I think I pay about 20% of my medicine costs. That is for a couple. Single payer system.
You have perfect clarity of the opposition party while completely ignoring that the Democrat party has been hijacked by Progressive Extremists!
When you can show a balanced view of both parties shortcoming you will become a moderate, until then you are nothing but a partisan shill.
Yeah, because Democrats are extremists if they don't back a terrible bill that is a $1 trillion tax-cut for the wealthy and throws 24 million Americans off of insurance. Can't imagine why Dems wouldn't vote for it.
That is unreal. I pay a little more than that for my federal and provincial income taxes, have no deductible on health care and a doctor's visit is include, in fact all of them are. I do pay about 100 per month on supplemental for my medicine and eye glasses etc. One hundred per year deductible, eye exams and eyeglasses every second year and I think I pay about 20% of my medicine costs. That is for a couple. Single payer system.
What about dental coverage, how does that work in Canada? What about seeing a specialist MD like an ENT or a gastroenterologist?
Well, at least we have been given a preview of how Trump and his cult will justify every failure ahead of them. It's all the Liberals fault!
Nothing more amusing than holding all the power--and gloating about it ad nauseam--and then being unable to close the deal.
Very lame excuse, worse even than "the dog ate my homework". And most folks can see it for what it is - lame. They'd do better if they just said "oops, folks, sorry, we're going to get to work on something you'll like better" right away.
And the fact is, that I think whatever Trump wants to do - on health care or anything else - he's going to have to get D support - and I don't think tossing a bone or two will do it.
Well, you don't need the extremists in either party to get things done.
I doubt they comprise much more than 20% of either party.
That's not enough to stop anything if the President is willing to sign.
The thing to try this out on is infrastructure.
20%?
The progressive extremists in the DP were enough to force HRC left of Sanders!
The Sanders supporters ended up either not voting at all, or voting for Trump because they felt betrayed... by the progressives.
The HC bill was squashed by the Freedom Caucus which have just 35 or so members. With 237 Rs in the house it breaks down to 15% +/-. In this case I'm glad they made it fail, but they could very well screw really good legislation just as easily.
Bolded: Actually, yes it is. The senate only has a 1 seat difference. If just 2 (R) jump ship on any bill it will not make it to Trump's desk.
The left and right have to stop playing partisan games. The Dems have to own up to fixing their crappy ACA and the R's have to put their promises into action in helping to craft the fix.
The government works best when the politicians in both parties work together openly and transparently.
Until that happens we will have more secret meeting, closed doors, cans kicked, and partisan gridlock.
Trump cannot trust most Republirats.........and he ABSOLUTELY cannot trust any
Fecalocrats.
I wish the stupid OUR FRIENDS ACROSS THE AISLE nonsense would end. If Republirats consider them stinking, vile Nutcases their friends, I guess they are even dumber than me.
Trump cannot trust most Republirats.........and he ABSOLUTELY cannot trust any
Fecalocrats.
I wish the stupid OUR FRIENDS ACROSS THE AISLE nonsense would end. If Republirats consider them stinking, vile Nutcases their friends, I guess they are even dumber than me.
My word, what a ... spew.
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