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Old 03-25-2017, 07:35 PM
 
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64 is only relevant in the fact that it's the number it happened to end up. 64 is not immediate. Neither is 30,20,10, whatever. He could have said "I will get it started in the first 6 months" or whatever. He is the one who qualified it as immediate
But see he never said 64.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:37 PM
 
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He meant repeal and replace legislation immediately, not implementation as you try to parse it. He failed. Yugely. Sad.
And now the "plan" is to let Obamacare die, no plan for new legislation immediately or in the foreseeable future.
Even if it is somehow now amended to meaning the legislation...still not immediate. Still failed.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:40 PM
 
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But see he never said 64.
Ok fine. He never said the very specific number of 64, which he is using to deflect and weasel out. Never mind he used words like immediately, which is used for very soon occurrences.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:51 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Ok fine. He never said the very specific number of 64, which he is using to deflect and weasel out. Never mind he used words like immediately, which is used for very soon occurrences.
and he said it'd very easy.
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Old 03-25-2017, 07:52 PM
 
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Even better is this: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...47f3c#comments

WTF? Donnie called the WP and NYT? Why would he call WaPo and NYT to reveal this information?? Two of the press that are "fake news" according to him...

Truly this creature is fing insane. Liar in chief. Idiot in chief. Nutjob in chief. Lunatic in Chief. Psychotic in chief.
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Old 03-25-2017, 08:28 PM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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I'm sure Trump never said he was in favor of the mandate..that now he has defunded..trying to cripple the ACA...

Trump On Obamacare: 'I Like The Mandate' [VIDEO] | The Daily Caller
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Old 03-25-2017, 08:30 PM
 
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[quote=latimeria;47634445]Okay...I feel like I am living in Bizarroland..../QUOTE]

This reminds me of Reagan, his not "remembering" Iran Contra and then being diagnosed with Alzheimer's.

Trump is on tape making all these crazy statements and then denies he ever said them. Either he is a pathological liar or the man has a serious underlying medical condition. Very scary.
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Old 03-25-2017, 08:30 PM
 
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Trump has no idea of what it means to actually work on negotiations. He thinks he can strong-arm his way into anything, and gloss over the details of serious legislation. As he famously said, "No one knew health care would be this complicated."

Such a dolt.
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Old 03-25-2017, 08:32 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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The world of politics is a blend of the hard disciplines of statecraft, where the rules change very slowly and rash actions are strongly discouraged, and the fantasies of showmanship, where the short-term interests of a fickle electorate change on a near-daily basis. When a society becomes ideologically polarized, as has been intensifying in the United States for at least 25 years, the courting of the "swing voter", who is more likely to subscribe easily to preconceived notions, becomes increasingly important to those schooled in the fine points of "public relations".

I've never made any secret of a personal disdain for those individuals who seek scapegoats for all their misfortunes, whether it's shallow-thinking Trumpsters who think a wall can lock out economic forces driven mostly by the inevitable diminution of North American eonomic dominance, or frothing Leftists who believe that somewhere, there's a huge store of "stolen" wealth for them to redistribute; both sentiments are driven by a base lust for power.

If the President has a serious interest in leaving a positive legacy (something I tend to doubt), the control of both houses of Congress by the less-simplistic, less-strident and less radical of the major parties, and the promising prospect of retaining that advantage in the next midterm election and forestalling further pseudo-"liberal" appointments to the Supreme Court, would behoove him to eschew "activism" and to forge links with both the moderate and pragmatic sectors of the GOP and the "blue dog" Democrats who have never embraced urbanist/socialist thinking. As with the regulatory reforms of the late Seventies and most of the Eighties, the removal of the impediments to a more open economy can pay large dividends -- but not to those who think mostly in terms of power, privilege and coercion.

But as for the overgrown children over in Deep Left Field, I can only emphasize that the continued breakdown of the rigid structures mistakenly imposed in the wake of the New Deal, the continued growth of a personal-service-based economy which will never be well-suited to union organization, and a growing pool of "melted snowflakes" with overpriced (and underpowered) credentials, a poor attitude, and a large burden of student debt, and can only offer the observation that the dragon's teeth were sown throughout the misguided Clinton, Bush, and Obama presidencies; we all have a date with a disappointing, but not particularly harsh reality in the works.

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Old 03-25-2017, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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“When we win on Nov. 8 and elect a Republican Congress, we will be able to immediately repeal and replace Obamacare. We have to do it... I will ask Congress to convene a special session so we can repeal and replace,” he continued. “And it will be such an honor for me, for you and for everybody in this country because Obamacare has to be replaced. And we will do it, and we will do it very, very quickly. It is a catastrophe.”

"I will work with Congress to introduce the following broader legislative measures and fight for their passage within the first 100 days of my Administration:.....
5. Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications."
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