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Old 04-24-2017, 03:49 PM
 
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Old 04-24-2017, 10:56 PM
 
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Both of you are amusing. First you ignore that "free speech" is "protected" only from government interference. That's constitutional. Speaking freely to oppose others points of view is just as free as the first party's expression. It's called protest and its protected constitutionally as well.

You also ignore that only one side of these two opposing ideologies promotes prejudice of racial, religious, and gender classes. The left's protests are of this intolerant view being promoted as worthy of restrictive policy. The "right" isn't preaching hate. Certain extreme factions of "right nationalists" are preaching to restrict constitutional freedoms of selected classes. That's whats dangerous.
In other words, people like you claim to champion free speech as long as everyone agrees with you. If they don't agree shout them down and resort to violence if necessary. I sincerely hope you get what you give. If the shoe was on the other foot everyone on the left would be screaming for arrests.

I really believe people like you would herd the opposition into concentration camps if you could. No doubt at all.
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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Both of you are amusing. First you ignore that "free speech" is "protected" only from government interference. That's constitutional. Speaking freely to oppose others points of view is just as free as the first party's expression. It's called protest and its protected constitutionally as well.

You also ignore that only one side of these two opposing ideologies promotes prejudice of racial, religious, and gender classes. The left's protests are of this intolerant view being promoted as worthy of restrictive policy. The "right" isn't preaching hate. Certain extreme factions of "right nationalists" are preaching to restrict constitutional freedoms of selected classes. That's whats dangerous.
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In other words, people like you claim to champion free speech as long as everyone agrees with you. If they don't agree shout them down and resort to violence if necessary. I sincerely hope you get what you give. If the shoe was on the other foot everyone on the left would be screaming for arrests.

I really believe people like you would herd the opposition into concentration camps if you could. No doubt at all.
Never claimed to "champion free speech," Mike. Or to be "left" right or upside down. Never suggested "shouting down" or "violence" is good either. The only things commented on, as you can read above, are bare facts.
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:51 AM
 
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Never claimed to "champion free speech," Mike. Or to be "left" right or upside down. Never suggested "shouting down" or "violence" is good either. The only things commented on, as you can read above, are bare facts.
Anyone who says things like "gender classes" can't claim to be discussing "bare facts".
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:16 AM
 
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Anyone who says things like "gender classes" can't claim to be discussing "bare facts".
Just did. So can. Obviously. Can you refute the statement with a rational explanation of your comment?
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:20 AM
 
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Just did. So can. Obviously. Can you refute the statement with a rational explanation of your comment?
Tulemutt it's simple.

If I had a quarter for every gender, I'd have 50 cents.
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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Tulemutt it's simple.

If I had a quarter for every gender, I'd have 50 cents.
Kazchasey, those two would still be "gender classes." No number of classes was identified.
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:24 AM
 
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Kazchasey, those two would still be "gender classes." No number of classes was identified.
Tulemutt, then why did you use the SJW term "gender classes" if you believe there are only "two" genders? Why not just say genders?

If you're going to use their nomenclature, don't get mad if you get identified as part of their crew.
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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Tulemutt, then why did you use the SJW term "gender classes" if you believe there are only "two" genders? Why not just say genders?

If you're going to use their nomenclature, don't get mad if you get identified as part of their crew.
Kaz, your protest is baseless. The fact is no number of genders was identified. Why a particular phrase might be used instead of another is semantics that can be leveled at anyone for anything they say - including you. No merit to your puffery assumption unless you can show basis for intent.
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Old 04-25-2017, 10:34 AM
 
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Kaz, your protest is baseless. The fact is no number of genders was identified. Why a particular phrase might be used instead of another is semantics that can be leveled at anyone for anything they say - including you. No merit to your puffery assumption unless you can show basis for intent.
Right. Okay, so how many genders were you referring to when you said "gender classes"?
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