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Since Reagan, well since JFK, the top marginal income tax rate on individuals has gone down massively. It has gone up here and there, but the overall trajectory is downward. Same thing with corporate taxes. Free trade would definitely be conservative, although there were 19th century socialists who were supporters of free trade. Attacks against unions are right wing, as is financial deregulation, the lowering of the estate tax, privatizations of public assets, pro-corporate intellectual property rights, etc. We have done all of that. We have lowered taxes on the rich and corporations, have more not less free trade, have a protectionist intellectual property rights regime, have deregulated finance, privatized and cut massive amounts of government services and resources and unions have been attacked and barely exist. What has been the impact? Decades of stagnating wages, de-industrialization, a massive increase in wealth and income inequality, a massive build-up in private debt and the complete corruption of the political system. It has been a disaster.
U.S. cities and college towns are moderate to liberal. Suburbs are conservative. Rural areas in the North are ultra-conservative. Rural areas in the South are just to the left of Saudi Arabia.
Don't forget that United States is the country that gave the World May Day, 40 day work week, weekends off, etc.
Yeah, and doesn't even celebrate it itself. Certainly the US had its Left Wing days, back when trade unions had power and support and a lot of great things came out of that and spread to the world, but the US has definitely moved a good way to the Right since about WWII.
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wrong. The Democratic Party of today is not even centrist by any means and has a taken a far sharp turn into crazy land. The Republican party is basically seen as the moderate party now which is why they have been having so much success and shows how crazy the Dems have gotten
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You posed the question, and asked people to discuss it.
Do you want discussion, or do you want to immediately try to shut down anyone whose view differs from your own?
My thoughts:
It depends upon who you ask. Clearly, there is going to be disagreement between the right and the left in the US, with the right saying we are far left, and the left saying we are too conservative.
Ask people in other developed countries, and I think they would say center right...maybe. They certainly wouldn't say we are far to the left, or anything remotely like it.
He wants confirmation bias, he is like a bully who hates 'libruls' and wants to beat them into the ground 😒
FDR would be shocked at how right wing the Democrats have become over the past 30 years. Wall Street and big pharma are worshipped by most among the Democratic party bosses while Republicans are off into uncharted territory as a pure extension of the interests of the billionaire class. Among the Democratic voters however, the principles of the New Deal is as strong as ever and New Deal politics is widely popular among American people. New Deal democrats lack funding to compete, so the best way to make American politics more responsive to public opinion would be to get rid of big money in politics.
Listen to FDR today and his agenda would be demonized as pure evil and outrageous by the moneyed interests and their lackeys:
FDR was to many an Anti-Semite, a Racist, and was responsible for Interning most Americans of Japanese descent. Yep a Dem
You're missing the fact that an intelligent overclass with minimal awareness of its mid/long term interests will have at least an influential faction that recognizes when concessions must be made in order to save the system that enriches and empowers them. FDR did so, and was reviled for decades as a traitor to the ruling class.
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