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I think he is just looking for ways to put down the Canadian system or to make theirs look better.
Absolutely not. I wanted Canadians to chime in so that they could explain to Americans why your system is not compatible here. Our laws require that we take care of everyone in the ER, regardless of their ability to pay.
I think he is just looking for ways to put down the Canadian system or to make theirs look better.
It seems ludicrous that while in the 'Health and Wellness' section of these very boards, specifically regarding health insurance where the horror stories are legion, along with the P&OC boards being rife with angst over health care providing proof positive their system being in a state of shambles; they would attempt to castigate any other country's health care.
In concert with the now third rated leading cause of preventable deaths in the U.S. being 'medical errors' taking the argument from one of simple delivery into the realm of the practices themselves; one wonders why they think they have the currency to look askance at Canada or anywhere else for that matter.
Those of us living in the U.S. for months of each year are more than familiar with their system and would not trade ANYTHING about their system for what we've been enjoying for 50 years or more before them.
Absolutely not. I wanted Canadians to chime in so that they could explain to Americans why your system is not compatible here. Our laws require that we take care of everyone in the ER, regardless of their ability to pay.
Canadian law is the same. In Canada nobody can be refused emergency medical care if they need it, regardless of who they are, where they come from and whether or not they can pay for it.
What is the alternative? Kick them to the curb and let them die?
Canadian law is the same. In Canada nobody can be refused emergency medical care if they need it, regardless of who they are, where they come from and whether or not they can pay for it.
What is the alternative? Kick them to the curb and let them die?
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So 10 to 20 million Americans can show up in Canada, receive free medical care, and not pay a dime? Wow, I wonder if that would make things more expensive for you?
Those are wealthy Canadians who generally come for non emergency care. I have friends back in NY who have dual citizenship, and despite being well off, they go TO Canada for their medical care.
Exactly!
I lived in FL for many years (and still do part-time) and many of my neighbors are Canadians who live in the U.S. for 6 months. They always go back home to get medical care.
One woman was in a bad car accident and was flown back to Montreal via MedEvac for treatment. Perhaps cost was the main issue, but she didn't have to pay a dime.
I also shared a home with a woman from the U.K. She flew to London when she needed surgery. (yes, I know that's not in Canada. lol)
Absolutely not. I wanted Canadians to chime in so that they could explain to Americans why your system is not compatible here. Our laws require that we take care of everyone in the ER, regardless of their ability to pay.
I doubt your ER takes in many people who have travelled to the States for treatment. You are simply jumping all over the place and mixing so many things up just to make your point. My brother in law for example was taken to ER but then he had to go into the hospital. He was charged and it was a high bill. I doubt that our hospitals are able to refuse to treat anyone in the ER either. But if you came into our country or me into yours I doubt I could go into the ER and get a hip replacement or cancer treatment.
You pointed out that because you cannot travel to Canada with the express view of getting a certain medical procedure done cheaply and your hospitals are required to provide everyone who goes into ER to be treated that therefore our ER do not have to treat everyone and that makes your system more expensive. You have sold me that if I ever need a hip replacement I can get it done at your ER for free with little or no waiting. Thanks for the advice.
So 10 to 20 million Americans can show up in Canada, receive free medical care, and not pay a dime? Wow, I wonder if that would make things more expensive for you?
As I explained and provided links to prove, it has already happened (although they weren't speaking spanish) and was addressed; now stop your nonsense.
I lived in FL for many years (and still do part-time) and many of my neighbors are Canadians who live in the U.S. for 6 months. They always go back home to get medical care.
One woman was in a bad car accident and was flown back to Montreal via MedEvac for treatment. Perhaps cost was the main issue, but she didn't have to pay a dime.
I also shared a home with a woman from the U.K. She flew to London when she needed surgery. (yes, I know that's not in Canada. lol)
I know four people who were either flown back or in one case taken back on a train as he was unable to fly due to his condition. Train to the west coast, train up the coast, train back in the plains and picked up by ambulance and taken to a hospital here. Still cheaper than treatment there.
Why cant they with our their expertise come up with an affordable method of providing everyone with health care instead of blaming it on illegal immigrants or running down all the other countries that do have a single payer system?
Sorry, I wasn't trying to cherry pick, just trying to understand what you meant. Thanks for clarifying. What exactly does your statement in bold mean? There is not a waiting list for our emergency care either that I am aware of, just long waits in the emergency room.
I thought this quote from the article was interesting as well.
Too much hyperbole on this issue from closed minds (not you), but ideologues who believe our current "for-profit" system (make outrageous profits on sick and dying people) is wonderful.
Now, why would think they'd be sending their minions out all over the internet with scare tactics, do you think???
We have tons of posts on this board from Canadians and UK and people who've used health systems outside the US - both on P&C and Health Insurance forum - refuting this charge.
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Absolutely not. I wanted Canadians to chime in so that they could explain to Americans why your system is not compatible here. Our laws require that we take care of everyone in the ER, regardless of their ability to pay.
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Do they pay Canadian taxes?
That I don't know honestly, never asked
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