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Old 03-29-2017, 03:55 AM
 
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I could easily argue that Amish culture is incompatible with America. They are completely different than the mainstream Americans in this country. So different that they live together in what amounts to communes and discourage communication with outsiders.

My idea is this: You can live and practice your belief system all the live long day as long as you aren't hurting others or trying to get others to live by your faith. IMHO, Christians and Muslims are guilty of the latter. Just do your thing, realize others don't subscribe to your beliefs and we can all live in peace. Why is this such a difficult concept?
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:00 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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I'm all for changing our foreign policy but it doesn't matter who is in office, cfr is in charge. But we aren't talking about governments,military's
I usually say that, domestic policy doesn't control foreign policy; Foreign policy controls everything. Because everything the government does must be within the framework of geopolitics, and international power dynamics.


Basically, the Marshall plan wasn't about America trying to be nice. It was to prevent Europe from falling to the Soviets. To hold Europe in the American sphere of influence.

While I hate the CFR, they are right, though I wish they weren't...


"To put it in a terminology that harkens back to the more brutal age of ancient empires, the three grand imperatives of imperial geostrategy are to prevent collusion and maintain security dependence among the vassals, to keep tributaries pliant and protected, and to keep the barbarians from coming together." - Zbigniew Brzezinski, CFR
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Old 03-29-2017, 04:05 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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The US is a nation of immigrants so it doesn't make sense to stop people from coming here. Europe on the other hand, I don't know why they're pushing to let so many people in who will never fully mesh with society there and will be an "underclass" for the next 1000 years.
Why is the United States a nation of immigrants? Why did we ever let a single immigrant come here? And did we let just anyone come here? Do you know about the quota act?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Act_of_1924

Between 1921 and 1965, if you weren't Western European, you pretty much weren't allowed to come here.

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OK. France has woken up.

How about this country, PLEASE.
Ain't going to happen, the people in charge want globalism, they want to destroy national borders. To truly turn back the tide would require a revolution.
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Old 03-29-2017, 05:10 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Wait wasn't it the French whom colonized and massacred hundreds of thousands of Algerian Muslims?

France's war in Algeria explored in Paris exhibition - BBC News

It's no wonder their society and Muslims don't seem compatible. After murdering hundreds of thousands of people of a certain society they tend to reject your way of life and beliefs.
And then come there to live.
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Old 03-29-2017, 05:45 AM
 
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Coming from a westerner that's quite ironic. Hundreds of years of colonization, support of dictators, rape, torture and mass bombings of third world people's and it's Islam that doesn't leave people alone?


Yep, it's Islam.....

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
-The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
-The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
-The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
-The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
-The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
-The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
-The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
-The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
-The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
-The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
-The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
-The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
-The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
-The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
-The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
-The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
-The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
-The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
-The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
-The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
-The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
-The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
-The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
-The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

Think of it:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

***WHEREAS...

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

***SO THIS LEADS TO...

They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan

***So, where are they happy?...

They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR DIRECTIVE
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION AND A LOT MORE !!!!!!!
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Old 03-29-2017, 05:47 AM
 
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Yep, it's Islam.....

The Shoe Bomber was a Muslim
-The Beltway Snipers were Muslims
-The Fort Hood Shooter was a Muslim
-The underwear Bomber was a Muslim
-The U.S.S. Cole Bombers were Muslims
-The Madrid Train Bombers were Muslims
-The Bafi Nightclub Bombers were Muslims
-The London Subway Bombers were Muslims
-The Moscow Theater Attackers were Muslims
-The Boston Marathon Bombers were Muslims
-The Pan-Am flight #93 Bombers were Muslims
-The Air France Entebbe Hijackers were Muslims
-The Iranian Embassy Takeover, was by Muslims
-The Beirut U.S. Embassy bombers were Muslims
-The Libyan U.S. Embassy Attack was by Muslims
-The Buenos Aires Suicide Bombers were Muslims
-The Israeli Olympic Team Attackers were Muslims
-The Kenyan U.S, Embassy Bombers were Muslims
-The Saudi, Khobar Towers Bombers were Muslims
-The Beirut Marine Barracks bombers were Muslims
-The Besian Russian School Attackers were Muslims
-The first World Trade Center Bombers were Muslims
-The Bombay & Mumbai India Attackers were Muslims
-The Achille Lauro Cruise Ship Hijackers were Muslims
-The September 11th 2001 Airline Hijackers were Muslims

Think of it:

Buddhists living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Christians = No Problem
Hindus living with Jews = No Problem
Christians living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Confucians = No Problem
Confucians living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Sikhs = No Problem
Sikhs living with Hindus = No Problem
Hindus living with Baha'is = No Problem
Baha'is living with Christians = No Problem
Christians living with Jews = No Problem
Jews living with Buddhists = No Problem
Buddhists living with Shintos = No Problem
Shintos living with Atheists = No Problem
Atheists living with Confucians = No Problem
Confusians living with Hindus = No Problem

***WHEREAS...

Muslims living with Hindus = Problem
Muslims living with Buddhists = Problem
Muslims living with Christians = Problem
Muslims living with Jews = Problem
Muslims living with Sikhs = Problem
Muslims living with Baha'is = Problem
Muslims living with Shintos = Problem
Muslims living with Atheists = Problem
MUSLIMS LIVING WITH MUSLIMS = BIG PROBLEM

***SO THIS LEADS TO...

They're not happy in Gaza
They're not happy in Egypt
They're not happy in Libya
They're not happy in Morocco
They're not happy in Iran
They're not happy in Iraq
They're not happy in Yemen
They're not happy in Afghanistan
They're not happy in Pakistan
They're not happy in Syria
They're not happy in Lebanon
They're not happy in Nigeria
They're not happy in Kenya
They're not happy in Sudan

***So, where are they happy?...

They're happy in Australia
They're happy in England
They're happy in Belgium
They're happy in France
They're happy in Italy
They're happy in Germany
They're happy in Sweden
They're happy in the USA & Canada
They're happy in Norway & India

They're happy in almost every country that is not Islamic!

And who do they blame? Not Islam... Not their leadership... Not themselves...
THEY BLAME THE COUNTRIES THEY ARE HAPPY IN!!

And they want to change the countries they're happy in, to be like the countries they came from where they were unhappy

Islamic Jihad: AN ISLAMIC TERROR DIRECTIVE
ISIS: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Qaeda: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Taliban: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hamas: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Hezbollah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Boko Haram: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Nusra: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abu Sayyaf: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Al-Badr: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Muslim Brotherhood: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Lashkar-e-Taiba: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Palestine Liberation Front: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Ansaru: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Jemaah Islamiyah: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION
Abdullah Azzam Brigades: AN ISLAMIC TERROR ORGANIZATION AND A LOT MORE !!!!!!!
Go make a list of shootings committed by white American males. Its quite extensive as well.
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Old 03-29-2017, 05:56 AM
 
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Wait wasn't it the French whom colonized and massacred hundreds of thousands of Algerian Muslims?

France's war in Algeria explored in Paris exhibition - BBC News

It's no wonder their society and Muslims don't seem compatible. After murdering hundreds of thousands of people of a certain society they tend to reject your way of life and beliefs.
How rude of you to bring history and some background knowledge into this discussion. We don't do that here -- we base our opinions on emotions and stuff we have learned in the last six months
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Old 03-29-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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And then come there to live.
The French spent decades attempting to make Algeria and other colonies French, forcing them to change their language and adopt French values.

They reap what they sow.
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Old 03-29-2017, 09:32 AM
 
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I could easily argue that Amish culture is incompatible with America. They are completely different than the mainstream Americans in this country. So different that they live together in what amounts to communes and discourage communication with outsiders.

My idea is this: You can live and practice your belief system all the live long day as long as you aren't hurting others or trying to get others to live by your faith. IMHO, Christians and Muslims are guilty of the latter. Just do your thing, realize others don't subscribe to your beliefs and we can all live in peace. Why is this such a difficult concept?
Yet, one of the creators of the Women March calls for America to be under Sharia Law and look how many are blindly following her, scarf and all. The Amish are not calling for America to change and as far as I know they never have......now if you want to talk about puppy mills!


If Franklin Graham stood up and called for America to be under Christian Law people would go insane. Not even realizing the difference between the OT and NT......


One has to think if you call yourself a moderate Christian are you going to be moderate when the time comes to be radical for your faith or will you be lukewarm. Jesus never told Christians to be idle or be moderate.
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Old 03-29-2017, 09:39 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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France would offend most American Christians, especially evangelicals. It's not considered good manners to be so brazen about public expression of faith, even things like wearing a cross around your neck. They are extremely secular. They view it as best to keep your religion to yourself.

In that respect: Vive la France!
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