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Why Can't the Fifth Largest Economy on Earth provide Universal Single Payer Health Care?
Paying for the world's most expensive military by far certainly can't help.
I tend to agree (understatement). The Corporatocracy model is most likely not doing anyone, meaning the people, any favors either.
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If Wal-Mart were a country, its revenues would make it on par with the GDP of the 25th largest economy in the world by, surpassing 157 smaller countries.
We've found 25 major American corporations whose 2010 revenues surpass the 2010 Gross Domestic Product of entire countries, often with a few billion to spare.
Even some major countries like Norway, Thailand, and New Zealand can be bested by certain U.S. firms.
Looks like even Jerry Brown knows it can't be done.
I believe it is being discussed and looked into. Maybe if California got its' tax revenue back it could happen. I believe it gets 70 cents back for every dollar in Federal taxes paid. What, I believe, we call - red states - take more than they contribute. Not sure these red states want CA to take away their gravy train, no?
Because I don't want my dr office to look like the DMV. Every government that provide universal coverage rations care.
That's amusing.
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Originally Posted by katygirl68
I think California should come up with their own universal healthcare plan. Massachusetts does it. It should be a state thing, not a federal thing. That way, everyone in charge is entirely accountable to their voters. You don't get that accountability at the federal level.
Good point.
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Originally Posted by burdell
Why Can't the Fifth Largest Economy on Earth provide Universal Single Payer Health Care?
Paying for the world's most expensive military by far certainly can't help.
Maintaining the supremacy of the US Dollar is paramount, since it affects Standard of Living and Life-Style.
I believe it is being discussed and looked into. Maybe if California got its' tax revenue back it could happen. I believe it gets 70 cents back for every dollar in Federal taxes paid. What, I believe, we call - red states - take more than they contribute. Not sure these red states want CA to take away their gravy train, no?
Californian breaks even in re to federal taxes vs federal spending towards ca.
In January 2017, the California Legislative Analyst’s Office said by several measures California is, indeed, a donor state, but just barely. It receives $0.99 in federal expenditures per dollar of taxes paid, which is below the national average return for states of $1.22 per dollar paid, according to its review of a 2015 New York Comptroller study. http://www.politifact.com/california...re-it-gets-dc/
The answer to this question is quite simple - and is relevant in MA and VT and other states which desire (and/or are close) to Universal Health Care.
States are STILL part of the USA and subject to the high costs (Pharma, medical devices, norms of salaries, building and capital costs) that our entire system is based upon.
Putting it another way - our current cost per person in the USA is 10.5K per person per year.
If the cost in CA or the USA was, as it is in the TOP health care countries in the world, 30-40% lower - then it would be quite easy to provide universal health care.
So - in summary - what California and other states are saying is "we can't afford that Wall Street Driven Predatory Capitalism 2X the price health care".
Nothing wrong with that! We obviously need to shave down the costs so states CAN. Also, as others may have mentioned, the US Government picks up 2/3 of the nation's costs - so CA would have to make sure they get al their tax money back (and even debt and deficit spending money) before attempting this.
Complaining about CA not being able to afford this is like saying "Yeah, at Whole Foods Prices we can't afford to feed the poor". Of course we can't. We need wholesale pricing, not the ripoff we current all face.
Californian breaks even in re to federal taxes vs federal spending towards ca.
In January 2017, the California Legislative Analyst’s Office said by several measures California is, indeed, a donor state, but just barely. It receives $0.99 in federal expenditures per dollar of taxes paid, which is below the national average return for states of $1.22 per dollar paid, according to its review of a 2015 New York Comptroller study. Does California give more than it gets from Washington D.C.? | PolitiFact California
Thanks. Good article. It addressed my number. I meant to say 78 cents. Glad to see we do get back 99 cents instead. That's a better return. Certainly not as good as the average but better than my original number. Anyway, glad to read it!!!
Short answer? Because 50% of us not only don't pay taxes they get money back they didn't pay in. In short, we simply don't pay enough in taxes so support universal health care. Get the bottom half to pay their share and it might be another story.
If they want to be like Canada or England, they all would be paying for it. And there would probably be a value added tax on goods and services so everyone pays that lives there, even illegals. It would be a good way to see what works and what doesn't. California is more similar to the demographics of the country than Massachusetts is, so it would be a better test lab for what could work in other areas. They won't do it right though. They would expect only wealthy to pay and then it would go broke.
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