Why Can't the Fifth Largest Economy on Earth provide Universal Single Payer Health Care?

[BruSan]

Originally Posted by InformedConsent

Medicaid IS free. But what on earth makes you think Medicare is free? After paying into Medicare for decades, a total of tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars and sometimes even millions of dollars, seniors on fixed incomes STILL are charged a monthly premium of about $150/person and a 20% co-pay. And prescriptions aren't covered unless they pay even more money for a supplemental policy.

PLEASE tell me people aren't so stupid as to believe that Medicare is free. Good grief!

I could be wrong but I think the poster's comments were supposed to imply that all of the resistance to single payer and it's socialistic nature of being portrayed by all and sundrie EXCEPT those who are using such a system as being free, is only free in the same context as Medicare is "free".

I'm believing the point is; why balk at single payer by erecting all these stupid strawman arguments, when a significant portion of your population is already using and happy with a single payer system?

Again; I could be wrong.

[InformedConsent]

Originally Posted by BruSan

I could be wrong but I think the poster's comments were supposed to imply that all of the resistance to single payer and it's socialistic nature of being portrayed by all and sundrie EXCEPT those who are using such a system as being free, is only free in the same context as Medicare is "free".

I'm believing the point is; why balk at single payer by erecting all these stupid strawman arguments, when a significant portion of your population is already using and happy with a single payer system?

Again; I could be wrong.

You are wrong. The poster said Medicaid and Medicare are free. Only Medicaid is free.

[Ariadne22]

Originally Posted by nmnita

As for socialized medicine, live in a country that has it: except cost, see how many, when honest like it. Please provide supporting data for this statement. See how long it takes you to see a doctor

You clearly haven't read these threads:

Let's just cut the crap and nationalize healthcare

If single payer works in Canada and the UK, why can't it here?

//www.city-data.com/forum/polit...ealthcare.html

Originally Posted by nmnita

and remember nothing is free; the tax burden in countries with government supported health care is unbelievable

Please substantiate with data. The 'unbelievable' part comes in when those countries also supply FREE college education. Otherwise, above threads indicate the opposite.

The truth is, between taxes and health insurance/care - Canadians pay FAR LESS than people in the US. The US is afflicted with what is called freedumb, propagated by uninformed remarks by people who only get their news from r-wing sources and lies repeated over and over and over by the internet bots and minions of the health care industry paid to protect the criminal profits of the health insurers in collusion with the big hospitals.

Originally Posted by nmnita

the quality of medacine isn't always top quality.

So, that would explain why US is virtually dead last in health outcomes and life expectancy - because of our SUPERIOR health care?

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...d-last/267045/




http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...s-US-lags.html

Try again.