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Old 03-30-2017, 01:49 PM
 
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Originally Posted by 1grin_g0 View Post
Get with the people that organized the women's marches. Hit up Soros. Get everyone together and take up donations for Planned Parenthood. Keep a piece of the action if you want. Problem solved.
NOPE. Let red states fill their states with poor and unplanned children and let red state voters fund the result.

The best solution is to let these voters see the long term effects. They only hurt themselves.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:51 PM
 
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No one is advocating for the removal of Planned Parenthood. They just need to sustain themselves without burdening people who don't want to be bothered with what they offer. If they are interested in helping - what happens in the government should not change their focus.
don't want to be burden by what they offer? don't go there. women, like men have the right to privacy, what services she uses is her business.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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NOPE. Let red states fill their states with poor and unplanned children and let red state voters fund the result.
You keep repeating this crap abut red states as if they're the only states that abortion occurs in. Can't you make your argument without this false rhetoric?
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:52 PM
 
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No one is advocating for the removal of Planned Parenthood. They just need to sustain themselves without burdening people who don't want to be bothered with what they offer. If they are interested in helping - what happens in the government should not change their focus.
Of course people are advocating for the removal of Planned Parenthood.

They want it gone! And if they cannot outlaw it, then defunding it is the next best thing.

Planned Parenthood isn't a burden. It's a nationwide system of clinics that provides much needed health services to the poor. By providing those services, they actually reduce the number of people trying to use other healthcare service providers, and the services they supply reduce the number of people seeking abortions, or suffering from and spreading STD's. But it's not like the holier-than-thous care about such things.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:52 PM
 
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This is a stupid move. We need PP.

That said, the assertion that abortions only take place in red states is ridiculous. Nothing but elitist gobbledygook.
Abortions take place everywhere but red states are the ones that want to get rid of Planned Parenthood.

Blue states are not doing that and as long as these poor parents having poor and unplanned children stay in those red states, the red states themselves will be forced to pay a much greater price and it's longer than eighteen years. Those poor children are unlikely to go to college, are unlikely to get better paying jobs and are more likely to be a cost to their communities.

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You keep repeating this crap abut red states as if they're the only states that abortion occurs in. Can't you make your argument without this false rhetoric?
See above.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:52 PM
 
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They can still do that. Nothing has changed in that regard.
Yeah, they can. But effective birth control is expensive and not everyone can afford it. So now, they'll take chances and will end up having more children they can't afford. They cycle of poverty will continue.

But I know you don't give a **** about whether a child is hungry, sleeps on the floor, goes to a ****ty school and doesn't get any health care. You've already said you don't care about quality of life. You just want to get the little buggers here. And punish their mothers for having sex.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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Get with the people that organized the women's marches. Hit up Soros. Get everyone together and take up donations for Planned Parenthood. Keep a piece of the action if you want. Problem solved.
Soros does spend plenty of money organizing to disrupt countries - send some moo-lah Planned Parenthood's way. Good idea...
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:55 PM
 
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Yeah, they can. But effective birth control is expensive and not everyone can afford it. So now, they'll take chances and will end up having more children they can't afford. They cycle of poverty will continue.

But I know you don't give a **** about whether a child is hungry, sleeps on the floor, goes to a ****ty school and doesn't get any health care. You've already said you don't care about quality of life. You just want to get the little buggers here. And punish their mothers for having sex.
Please do not tell me what I care about, when you have no clue.

If you care about sustaining what PP does, and you believe in their cause - send them some money.

This is what churches do when they help others. They put in their time and effort and money and help.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Kansas
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This isn't just about abortion. It is also about educating and preventing unwanted pregnancies and STDs.
It is about abortion to Planned Parenthood. They insist on doing abortions making that a priority over getting federal funding.

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Great, now conservative states will have even more dirt-poor people reproducing another generation of dirt-poor people.
Actually, if we deport the illegal aliens, that alone will reduce dirt-poor people. I think you will find that the issue of abortion has less to do with the poor and more to do with the convenience of the more wealthy having the option available. And, yes, I suppose they encourage the poor to have abortions, we all remember Margaret Sanger now don't we?

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States can still put money in the pot. No services have been terminated. People are free to still get whatever services they need.
That is what I don't understand, the whining when there are county health departments and clinics with sliding fee scales, of course, they aren't all set up in black neighborhoods like the clinics that provide abortion. Medicaid provides birth control and other services related to wellness.

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While $600K is nothing to sneeze at, it hardly compares with the salaries of presidents of other similar-sized companies. For example, the president of Mayo, which has 1.3 million patients/year (less than Planned Parenthood's 2.5 million) makes $2Mil.
Yes, but in this case they were asking about the COMPASSION and $600,000 would pay for a lot of "women's healthcare" if it weren't going to a CEO. Was that one selling baby parts for some extra cash on the side? Maybe $600,000 isn't considered enough.

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Or the baby parts they want to sell to buy an expensive sports car.
Some people just never have enough and let's face it, morals aren't exactly in play with these people in the first place.

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Sure they are. Poor people will simply reproduce unplanned and economically vulnerable children because they cannot afford such services.
County and community clinics with sliding fees based on income and Medicaid would be where these people would turn. Unplanned pregnancies seem to be at an all time high when you look at the number of abortions, got to wonder how people pre-1960 ever controlled the size of their family - think personal responsibility and birth control from the drug store counter. Maybe people are getting dumber or just more irresponsible.

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Nope, lots of red states will terminate it, and that means a massive number of low income folks with unwanted pregnancies and all the social problems that follow which the entire country will suffer from, not just the regressive states in question.
Not really. Preventing pregnancy isn't rocket science. I don't believe the red states probably have a high rate of abortion in the first place. Entire country is suffering from the birth rate of illegal aliens and no one sees an issue there now do they? Illegal aliens increase the poverty rate and continue to have more and more children for welfare checks.

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No tax dollars pay for abortions.

However, I do care about low income people getting birth control and getting tested for STD's, and getting basic reproductive healthcare. I think these are worthwhile endeavors that are good for society as a whole. But I totally understand that some people in our society don't want poor people to get any kind of healthcare.
Seriously, have you never heard of Medicaid? About county and community health centers that operate on a sliding fee scale? I don't know if some of these people just live under rocks and come out to listen to CNN or if they are in grade school and know nothing of the world, but there are services for the poor.

http://dailysignal.com/2015/08/17/pl...cs-take-place/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commun..._United_States

http://www.nafcclinics.org/

Everyone knows that abortion advocates are the ones driving this. They are willing to see PP shutdown and not provide birth control in the name of abortion.

I do not want my tax dollars paying to kill a baby. I want no part in that!

Women's healthcare is not killing a baby despite what the liberals are trying to sell. PP wants to perform abortions and finds that more important than being funded for actual healthcare.

***Note: Many liberals have said they would prefer Pence to Trump.
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Old 03-30-2017, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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Abortions take place everywhere but red states are the ones that want to get rid of Planned Parenthood.

Blue states are not doing that and as long as these poor parents having poor and unplanned children stay in those red states, the red states themselves will be forced to pay a much greater price and it's longer than eighteen years. Those poor children are unlikely to go to college, are unlikely to get better paying jobs and are more likely to be a cost to their communities.
Like you really give a crap about all those poor children. You're here gloating and wishing harm upon entire states of people just because they didn't/don't vote your way. California and New York are the top two states where abortions are performed. These rules will hurt your democratic komrades more than anyone else.

Wise up ... and don't make your contempt so pathetically obvious.
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