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I know what the trumpies will say here. It's fake news.
Just read those articles and judge for yourself.
Oh gee, sort of like the plot of Homeland this season minus the Russians (substitute right wing radio guy colluding with the CIA to bring down the female President elect (they guessed wrong on that one).
They don't need a thousand trolls, just 5 guys with 200 screen names or 10 guys with 100 each.
Oh gee, sort of like the plot of Homeland this season minus the Russians (substitute right wing radio guy colluding with the CIA to bring down the female President elect (they guessed wrong on that one).
They don't need a thousand trolls, just 5 guys with 200 screen names or 10 guys with 100 each.
They have a lot more than 5 or 10 guys in the room on Homeland.
I know what the trumpies will say here. It's fake news.
Just read those articles and judge for yourself.
Fake news about hillary?
most cd posters, pro trump, post things pro hillary folks say are lies.
the line between lies and truth has been erased and is subject to interpretation.
A thousand paid russian posters wouldn't make a whit of difference among the millions of non paid voters making anti hillary posts.
Surely we pro trumpers out number the anti hillary posters on cd. and when has anyone changed their mind if they supported either candidate based on some post????
It is ridiculous that rusian paid posters were any more effective than democrat paid posters slamming trump.
Much ado aboyt nothing.
You couldn't even get a consensus on whether hillary told a lie when she said she was under sniper fire or that she had only one other device for ease of use.... or a dozen more lies she told. Her supporters would say she didn'y lie.
Putin had no idea HRC would not be elected as did the US media and political prognosticators. He may have wanted to raise issues during her presidency. Putin was as surprised as anyone that Trump got elected. In Rohm Emanuels best philosophy of never letting a crisis go to waste, Putin was flexible enough to realize if he praised trump it would send the dems into blind hysteria. His original plan to divide the country, where obama left off, was still viable! Putin played the dems as useful idiots.
The FBI has stated that the Russians didn't want Trump to win per se, rather they wanted whoever was running against Hillary to win. As one of the main stooges for the military-industrial-complex, Hillary was drooling for war with Russia in Ukraine, Syria & anywhere else she could gin up a conflict. She was stealing Russia's oil/gas resources. She was the brains behind the Libyan & Syrian wars. In her entire career, there was never a single instance where she was against military aggression. Not one. She is to the right of John McCain. Let that sink in!
Obviously Russia and many others (Germany, South Korea, Israel & China all hacked the D's as well, according to the FBI) wanted her to lose. Some wanted her to win. Every country wants whoever is going to be best for their safety & prosperity.
If you believe the Russians hacked the D's & then turned it over to wikileaks, which I don't, then you have to ask yourself, why, according to the FBI, did the Russians begin hacking the D's at least six months before Trump ever got in the race? If you believe this story, then it's self evident the Russians were also trying to get Bernie Sanders or Jill Stein the nomination to avoid war. The left called both of them Russian stooges as well, btw.
The left loves to trumpet in how unpopular Trump was. Polls showed he was the single most disliked US Presidential candidate of the modern era. What the left forgets is that those same polls showed Hillary was the second most disliked Presidential candidate of the modern era. Take away Trump, and she was the most disliked Presidential nominee of our lifetimes. She started off extremely unpopular, then pushed the blue collar, rural & union voters away, then pushed away the youth vote by cheating Bernie Sanders, then ran a lazy campaign & never scored any points on the issues. She was a horrible candidate. The D's could have won with Bernie, but chose to lose with Hillary. You made your bed, now take responsibility for your actions like grown ups.
The Russians clearly wanted Trump to win, there were plenty of reasons they didn't want her to win. Putin had an intense dislike of her and he had many, many connections to the Trump campaign. You can either chose to believe the FBI on this or you can believe Putin.
Paul Manafort was not acting as an agent of the U.S.
He was acting on his own behalf.
Certainly the U.S. has interfered in other elections, but I've yet to see anyone claim that it was for personal gain as were Manafort's and 45's actions.
The Russians clearly wanted Trump to win, there were plenty of reasons they didn't want her to win. Putin had an intense dislike of her and he had many, many connections to the Trump campaign. You can either chose to believe the FBI on this or you can believe Putin.
Actually, my position is the FBI's position, not Putin's. They state that Russia wanted basically anyone by Hillary, not Trump specifically, which is why the alleged interference started long before Trump was in the race.
The Russians were hacking & using paid trolls according to the FBI six months before Trump entered the race. This can't be stressed enough. The reason, as the FBI has said, is that they wanted anyone but Hillary to win.
Obviously the Russians wanted Bernie Sanders to win as well. Bernie too has numerous Russian connections (as do most high level politicians). First, Bernie honeymooned in Moscow. Who honeymoon's in Moscow? Then Putin's bot army went to work for Bernie online & created the energy surrounding his campaign. Bernie was able to amass quite a fortune from the energy the Russians created for him. Bernie then had his friend Tad Devine join his campaign staff. Devine, who also worked for Al Gore & John Kerry, worked for the same Ukrainian company Michael Flynn worked for. After filing several extensions to avoid FEC financial disclosure statements, Bernie mysteriously received a single $10,000,000 donation & then shut down his campaign, declining to file a financial disclosure statement at all. He then went out & bought his 3rd home for nearly $600k. Not once did wikileaks publish any damaging information about Sanders. Not once. Everyone else in the party got the hammer, but not Bernie.
Then there's Jill Stein, who led the recount against Trump, likely at the behest of Putin, to undermine our election process. Stein, joined Michael Flynn in 2015 to celebrate RT's 10th anniversary in Moscow. To this day, no one knows who paid for that trip. What we do know is she sat at the same table as Vladimir Putin. She later said she "agrees with Putin on many issues". She added our countries should "collaborate" with Russia. RT then went so far as to host the 3rd party debate that Stein starred in. To this day she continues to go on RT & spout liberal nonsense like peace, collaboration with foreign countries, government transparency, not being policeman of the world, etc. Stein's vote count in Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania & Florida, would have given Hillary the election.
It's clear that if Russia did hack the D's & give that to wikileaks, if they did send paid internet trolls, that they began the campaign long before Trump entered the race, with Sanders & Stein being part of their plan as well.
Russia put out the fake news, the stupid american voter believed all the Bull.
Yes they did,on both accounts.
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