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Old 03-31-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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These are the same people the chastise minorities for taking too much welfare. The white working class need to understand they are in the same boat as immigrants and the urban poor.
Actually, many are aging hippies......moving to the country to do their thing. I grew up in a once retirement town in California, where the 60-70 yr olds kept their yards beautiful, the town was clean and always had stuff going on. Today it is full of 50-60 yr olds mostly hippies, with cluttered yards, walking canes, over medicated, pot smoking and nothing going on for the most part. I am not against smoking pot, but when does the creative side come out of people who only want it for medical purpose.
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:02 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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[quote=tinytrump;47692490]NO-NO there is nothing but hard working T supporters in rural areas - you talking about inner cities-- and STOP all farm subsidies-(welfare)!
- they wont need them after T makes America great again! ( )
they lie to themselves[/QUO

Are you saying to eliminate the Federal Farm Bill entirely?
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:02 AM
 
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This has been getting more and more coverage, thanks for posting.

"Across large swaths of the country, disability has become a force that has reshaped scores of mostly white, almost exclusively rural communities, where as many as one-third of working-age adults live on monthly disability checks..."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/class...=.8e9065572beb

"All but three of the 136 counties with the highest rates — where more than one in six working-age adults receive disability — were rural, the analysis found, although the vast majority of people on disability live in cities and suburbs. "

According to two sources, https://www.cdc.gov/ and http://www.disabilitystatistics.org/...sReport_US.pdf

Whites were not the largest demographic seeking disability.

Last edited by 2mares; 03-31-2017 at 08:22 AM..
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:30 AM
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The butt hurt identity politics is strong in this one
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:35 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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This has been getting more and more coverage, thanks for posting.

"Across large swaths of the country, disability has become a force that has reshaped scores of mostly white, almost exclusively rural communities, where as many as one-third of working-age adults live on monthly disability checks..."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/class...=.8e9065572beb
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"All but three of the 136 counties with the highest rates — where more than one in six working-age adults receive disability — were rural, the analysis found, although the vast majority of people on disability live in cities and suburbs."
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edit- 2mares already took care of it
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:35 AM
 
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Obama created a new task force which investigates and identifies, and stops Social Security Disability Fraud. It was very successful and the new task force was growing to more states. It was only in some regions/states as of last year and was expanding due to the success.

Wonder if Trump's federal job freeze and cost cuts stopped this program? It requires federal employees to investigate, identify and stop the fraud. They found bad doctors and lawyers that were rubber stamping.

Overhauling SSDI to prevent fraud should be a top priority.
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:39 AM
 
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$3600 a month PLUS HEALTHCARE (Medicaid likely) plus section 8 housing.

The disability "package" is easily worth $50-60k in many states a year.

So why work? Notice they said the guy won't take a min wage job. He can find work. Just not the pay he wants. He really wants the $20/hr job he had. He's done the math. $20/hr is likel $40k a year job. So going on disability is a better deal for him.
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:51 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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$3600 a month PLUS HEALTHCARE (Medicaid likely) plus section 8 housing.

The disability "package" is easily worth $50-60k in many states a year.

So why work? Notice they said the guy won't take a min wage job. He can find work. Just not the pay he wants. He really wants the $20/hr job he had. He's done the math. $20/hr is likel $40k a year job. So going on disability is a better deal for him.


Yeah, livin' large


http://www.investopedia.com/ask/answ...y-benefits.asp
SSDI recipients are eligible for Medicare after two years:
Does Medicare or Medicaid Come with Disability? | Disability Secrets#
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Old 03-31-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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If they were able to work, they are NOT disabled. They are unemployed. You can't have it both ways. Even Steven Hawking is able to work.
There are lots of people with disabilities who are still able to obtain and maintain employment in a decent economy.

When the economy tanks, people with disabilities face overwhelming odds.

For example, I worked with a guy who had a significant cognitive disability, but before the financial crash he was able to support himself by finding jobs as a casual laborer at construction sites.

When construction came to a halt, he was flat out of work. He tried several janitorial jobs but keeping track of everything that had to be done was too difficult for him. He tried landscaping work but that was seasonal at best and required knowledge that he was unable to absorb. Though he was willing to work, his disability was a barrier to employment. As his IQ tested out under 70, he was able to get on SSDI with a minimum amount of fuss and bother.

In a decent economy, employers will make reasonable accommodations for a person with disabilities. Not so much when employers are struggling to keep their own heads above water.
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Old 03-31-2017, 09:02 AM
 
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If Mr. Hawkings were to voluntarily stop earning money, and filed for disability, he would be found disabled.


Same for my example, above, about the attorney without any legs. If he filed for disability, and was still working, then he would be found 'not disabled'.


Let us use Mr. Hawking as our example.


Disability is a five-step process.


Step one: is the claimant engaged in 'substantial gainful activity'. If yes, then the evaluation stops, the individual is not disabled. So, if Mr. Hawking were working (and earning enough money to be considered 'substantial gainful activity'), then he would be found 'not disabled'. End of case.


If Mr. Hawking was not engaged in SGA, the second step asks if he have a 'severe' impairment. If yes, then the evaluation process proceeds to Step Three: does he have an impairment that is 'presumptively' disabling.


It would be obvious that Mr. Hawking, with the type of Lou Gehrig's disease he has, would be considered to have a 'severe' impairment (meaning, more than a 'slight' limitation in his ability to work). However, simply having a 'severe' impairment is not a basis for disability; you proceed to the third step.


At Step Three, Mr. Hawking's would be found to 'meet' Section 11.17 of the Listing of Impairments, which provides that a person is 'presumptively' disabled if they have "disorganization of motor function in two extremities resulting in an extreme limitation in the ability to stand up from a seated position, balance while standing or walking, or use the upper extremities".


Mr. Hawking would thus be found disabled at this third step. The fact that he had previously worked while laboring under his limitations is not relevant.


Since in our example the person is found disabled at Step Three, I will not discuss Step Four (can they do their past relevant work) or Step Five (is there other work they can perform, in view of there age, education, past work experience, and residual functional capacity).
Great info.

So, in the more rural parts of the country where most of the work involves physical labor, when a person acquires a physical disability is this why they are determined to meet disability criteria because there are limited jobs in their area that they could do?
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