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If Putin doesn't like somebody, they end up dead. So if these Russians are dead, they weren't in business with Putin. Now, we know that wikileaks has gotten some information from Russian hackers, but most came from here in DC. Maybe Putin ordered their deaths...but that would mean that they did something he didn't like. If they hacked to help Trump, Putin would not have killed them. I understand that none of this Russian hacking business makes sense and we have a collective bunch of numbskulls and sell outs running our intelligence agencies, congress, and justice department and they couldn't find their asses with a flashlight.
Beyond that, we have our own agents pretending to be Russians and Chinese hackers. And the military industrialist complex seems hell bent on starting another phony cold war between us and Russia and the Russians seem happy to play along. Meh, I'm not buying any of it.
And another thing, nobody batted an eye when all those investment bankers s started getting suicide. Another one tied to Madoff just jumped off a parking garage. Why is a Russian hacker conspiracy not tin foil hat worthy but so many others are?
Until I get a good answer on what laws Trump and Flynn actually broke -- assuming that what they are accused of actually took place -- then we can safely call this Russian stuff "political theater" and nothing more.
If Michael Flynn broke no laws, then why is his lawyer requesting immunity from prosecution in exchange for Flynn's testifying under oath against others?
“I can tell you right now, today, that gray outlets, that are Soviet-pushing accounts, tweet at President Trump during high volumes when they know he’s online, and they push conspiracy theories,”
So? a typical Trump tweet gets what, 25,000 replies? You think he reads any of those?
If Michael Flynn broke no laws, then why is his lawyer requesting immunity from prosecution in exchange for Flynn's testifying under oath against others?
Flynn will be asked a whole bunch of leading and gotcha questions by the Democrats (and some nasty Republicans who hate Trump) in a witch hunt atmosphere, and not just about his relationship with Trump.
The legal definition of treason under American law includes only 1) levying war against the United States or 2) giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
You're correct - treason is tightly defined in the U.S. Constitution.
No Trump campaign member or Trump administration member is suspected of levying war against the United States.
No Trump campaign member or Trump administration member has been legally charged with giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
But we don't need a declaration of war in order to have an enemy, so the 'giving aid and comfort' thing is still in play.
And the word 'treason' is being bandied about (even by me, in some threads) as a generic term. More precisely, the potential crimes that people around Trump may or may not have committed include cybercrime, aiding and abetting cybercrime, interference with an election, collusion with a foreign agent against the best interests of the United States, obstruction of an investigation, etc.
Nixon wasn't brought down by a two-bit burglary, but by actively engaging in a cover-up of said burglary.
Ronald Reagan dodged the Iran-Contra affair by admitting in a televised address to the American people that, while he didn't think he screwed up, he probably did screw up, and that he took full responsibility for what had happened.
Clinton wasn't tripped up by White Water, or by the Paula Jones lawsuit, but by committing perjury about an unrelated illicit sexual affair during a sworn deposition.
If there's only smoke and no fire, Donald Trump could lay all of these investigations to rest by simply cleaning house, releasing his tax returns, and coming clean on any pending questions. So why hasn't he?
Flynn will be asked a whole bunch of leading and gotcha questions by the Democrats (and some nasty Republicans who hate Trump) in a witch hunt atmosphere, and not just about his relationship with Trump.
His lawyer is giving him good advice.
No, Flynn can plead the 5th amendment in response to such questions. He'll also have legal counsel at his side to expose any overly grand-standing questions.
His lawyer actually offered up Michael Flynn's testimony about the illegal acts of others in exchange for immunity - that's a world of difference than simply seeking to avoid "a whole bunch of leading and gotcha questions".
And another thing, nobody batted an eye when all those investment bankers s started getting suicide. Another one tied to Madoff just jumped off a parking garage. Why is a Russian hacker conspiracy not tin foil hat worthy but so many others are?
Good try.
Let me see if I can explain this elusive concept for you.
"Obama wiretapped me," without any supporting evidence is a tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
"Obama isn't an American citizen," is a tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
Clinton was running a pedophile ring out of a pizza parlor is a tin foil hat conspiracy theory.
Recognize anything these three have in common?
Hint: They are all just wild ass accusations with no evidence to back them up.
Russians meddling in our elections is backed up by evidence and observation. We've all seen the "Why can't we be friends with Russia," posts on this forum. Think this is coming from Americans with their wits about them?
Team Trump's connections to Russians are popping up constantly.
Team Trump's attempts to divert attention and muddy the investigations are another clue.
FYI: There is a difference between suiciding by jumping off a parking garage roof and being found dead in the trunk of your car.
Trump or anyone on his team asking the Russians to release Hillary or Hillary campaign emails, specifically knowing they were obtained through illegal means, like hacking, can be covered under the charge cyber espionage. They could even be charged as an accessory after the fact.
Dodged that topic pretty neatly, huh? No one cares about the Clintons, no one is interested any longer in the fact-free twaddle that flows from the befuddled minds of the Trump cult.
What we are interested in is understanding whether the Trump campaign or the current Trump administration colluded with the Russians to influence our election. Have something to add to that? Pro or con? Let's hear it.
Topic is trail of dead bodies.
The Clintons are famous for it.
Susan MacDougal chose prison over testifying against the Clintons.
Care to guess why she did that?
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