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Old 04-01-2017, 03:52 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Originally Posted by illtaketwoplease View Post
I have never, ever visited or seen Brietbart. If anyone is out in left field and brainwashed it's people like you.
Well since you discount our own intelligence agencies you must have a reliable source or do you just choose to disbelieve.
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Old 04-01-2017, 05:36 PM
 
Location: United States
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The FBI agent gave quite a few details, facts are not talking points they are facts. The FBI and committees are still investigating so the proof is still forthcoming. The usual deflection, "Hillary", "no proof", better to just keep your ears and eyes covered for the remainder of the investigations, you may not like the outcome.
Yes, me and my wanting to see evidence before I believe something...how silly.
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Old 04-01-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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Yes, me and my wanting to see evidence before I believe something...how silly.
There have been plenty of statements regarding the Russian hacking although there is no indication that Trump colluded at this point but there are certainly a number of connections to his staff. The fact that Russia hacked into our system has been stated many times. Regardless of the proof presented you will always ask for more and turn the conversation to Clinton, there is nothing that will convince you. You choose to believe some other source, god knows what, not much different from Trump.
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Old 04-01-2017, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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It's encouraging to see your shift in position about Trump. This isn't happening to many of your fellows. You are now saying that there's a "blame" to be assessed, for him becoming president. Maybe this choice of words, is some kind of Freudian slip, indicating that the truth inside, is struggling to burst out?




You're trying to read something into that post (the current leftist talking point) that isn't there.
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Old 04-01-2017, 07:41 PM
 
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There have been plenty of statements regarding the Russian hacking although there is no indication that Trump colluded at this point but there are certainly a number of connections to his staff. The fact that Russia hacked into our system has been stated many times. Regardless of the proof presented you will always ask for more and turn the conversation to Clinton, there is nothing that will convince you. You choose to believe some other source, god knows what, not much different from Trump.
The fact that Obama wasn't born in the US has been stated many times.

Regardless of the time it took for Hawaii to FIND & produce his BC, let alone the FACT that Obama never managed to care about having a copy of his BC (found it in his "mother's things" and promptly lost it again, not a big deal to keep track of, right?) & most can trace their ancestors back a good 100+ years and find their BCs even in what used to be communist countries), it's all some big joke. Libs and Dems decided that name calling ("birthers") those who questioned was a way to shame them in to dropping the issue.

Obama traveled overseas while a senator - he could have produced his passport instead. But it would have his place of birth on it. Could have solved it with that. Or did he lose his passport too?

Could have released his college application records, which would have shown how he applied (US citizen or Foreign National)....so why didn't he?

You (in general) can't ask to move forward and not look back - Dems & Libs blamed Bush for everything and then some over the past 8 years.

Of course Hillary will be brought up b/c all of her (and her husband's - doesn't matter if he wasn't "running", he and his wife have been partners in crime since day one) sneaky & lying was "pooh-poohed" and swept under the rug.

You might ask, "What difference, at this point, does it make?".

Well, that was good enough for Hillary & the Dems/Libs THEN, so it should be good enough for the Dems/Libs TODAY.

Could you imagine if all of Trump's staff who are "connected" to this Russian issue started committing suicide by a gun shot to the back of the head? The MSM might actually pay attention & investigate.

Russia hacked in to our system and Trump's staff/Trump himself told the Russians how to do so?

What power did these staffers have?

Why didn't Russia hack in when Obama was running for POTUS - either time?

It's funny to me that now everyone believes what the intelligence community (or ex-intelligence agents) has to say when it's anti-Trump, but the intelligence community was full of crap and misinformation when "it" stated that Iran had WMDs & the US went to war over that info.
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:23 PM
 
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The fact that Obama wasn't born in the US has been stated many times.

Regardless of the time it took for Hawaii to FIND & produce his BC, let alone the FACT that Obama never managed to care about having a copy of his BC (found it in his "mother's things" and promptly lost it again, not a big deal to keep track of, right?) & most can trace their ancestors back a good 100+ years and find their BCs even in what used to be communist countries), it's all some big joke. Libs and Dems decided that name calling ("birthers") those who questioned was a way to shame them in to dropping the issue.

Obama traveled overseas while a senator - he could have produced his passport instead. But it would have his place of birth on it. Could have solved it with that. Or did he lose his passport too?

Could have released his college application records, which would have shown how he applied (US citizen or Foreign National)....so why didn't he?

You (in general) can't ask to move forward and not look back - Dems & Libs blamed Bush for everything and then some over the past 8 years.

Of course Hillary will be brought up b/c all of her (and her husband's - doesn't matter if he wasn't "running", he and his wife have been partners in crime since day one) sneaky & lying was "pooh-poohed" and swept under the rug.

You might ask, "What difference, at this point, does it make?".

Well, that was good enough for Hillary & the Dems/Libs THEN, so it should be good enough for the Dems/Libs TODAY.

Could you imagine if all of Trump's staff who are "connected" to this Russian issue started committing suicide by a gun shot to the back of the head? The MSM might actually pay attention & investigate.

Russia hacked in to our system and Trump's staff/Trump himself told the Russians how to do so?

What power did these staffers have?

Why didn't Russia hack in when Obama was running for POTUS - either time?

It's funny to me thrat now everyone believes what the intelligence community (or ex-intelligence agents) has to say when it's anti-Trump, but the intelligence community was full of crap and misinformation when "it" stated that Iran had WMDs & the US went to war over that info.
I don't understand what obamas birth certificate has to do with any of this other than Trumps lies, we do know this Russian propaganda went back to 2014 not only here but in Europe. Pretty unusual for a president to be disparaging his own intelligence agencies and praising the Russians, never saw so many connections to Russia on other staffs.
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:30 PM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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And Obama wasn't born in America. Who cares about this line of baloney.
Prove it.
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:34 PM
 
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This was testimony by Clint Watts, a former FBI agent, for the Senate Intelligence Committee this week. He is cyber expert and counter terrorism instructor at West Point currently in the Foreign Policy Institute.

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“Part of the reason active measures have worked in this election is because the commander-in-chief has used active measures at times against his opponents,” Watts testified.

Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute and George Washington University, told the Senate Intelligence Committee that Trump and his campaign’s use of Russian active measures happened in plain sight — even if most Americans were unaware at the time.

Watts also testified that Trump claimed repeatedly that the election could be rigged, which he said was the No. 1 theme pushed by RT, Sputnik and other Russian propaganda outlets.

“Part of the reason active measures works, and it does today in terms of Trump Tower being ‘wiretapped,’ is because they parrot the same lines.”
I have no idea what this guy is talking about. The commander-in-chief would be Obama during the election. Is he accusing Obama of something?

What the hell are "active measures"?

And why didn't the OP quote anything that has anything to do with Trump assisting with "Russian propaganda"?
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:35 PM
 
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Prove it.
Well there was his birth announcement in the paper in Hawaii...then his actual birth certificate....then the FBI most likely checked him out a bit when they assigned secret service to him, and more......I mean...its just too correct right? That PROVES its all fake news!

Seriously, I can't wait to see the response. More likely some repeat of some far right conspiracy site. oh, maybe infowars!
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Old 04-01-2017, 09:39 PM
 
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Everyone who doesn't worship Trump and believe stupid things like Obama not being born in America.
Obama wrote a book, and the publicity materials said he was not born in the US. How is it stupid for someone to believe Obama's agent?
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