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When people appear blind and deaf to his faults, what explains the disconnect?
This is the question that you need to answer.
Assuming that anyone who disagrees with you is ignorant, is simply wrong. There are people far more intelligent than you and me, who support Trump. But why?
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Originally Posted by mollyblythe
Some people don't care what he is, does or has done, as long as they might get theirs. Ethics don't matter. Integrity doesn't matter.
Did Hillary Clinton have integrity? Was she the most-ethical democrat?
Do you think Bill Clinton has ethics and integrity?
You are putting the ***** on a pedestal. That isn't how things work in real life. Good men don't win, they finish last.
So why do people support Trump? Because in short, what choice do they have?
But the prospect of a Hillary Clinton presidency, is literally terrifying. There is almost nothing that Trump could, or couldn't do, that would make me support that horrible witch.
The Dutch grow a nice tulip and make a good cheese, but beyond that, once they are fully converted as an Islam nation, they'll be praying for President Trump to save their sorry a$$.
Others RIGIDLY want to believe he will do something(s) for them and they DON'T WANT to accept what he really is.
There are some unsettling parallels to the days of the old Mafia Dons. They were mostly bad guys but they did favors for the obsequious in their areas of influence and they could be glad-handers when they chose. Only later, those sycophants, their families, communities and regions often paid for small favors in huge negative ways. The old Dons kept their families at their behest just like our new pseudo-leader.
Now we have our own "Don". He also promises and will give some favors that his faithful (and those not) will pay for in huge negative ways. Just beyond 60 days in, we already have been seeing this through the chaos, deceit,subterfuge and manipulation.. Instead of mowing citizens down with weapons (not so far that we know of), he is dismantling the integrity of our government process from the inside. He's a profligate liar. He sews mistrust and dissension. He deflects, but after some ethical acrobatics, contortions and convolutions, it all comes back to him.
There are a minority of citizens who would like to see our government dismantled or at least in chaos and destabilized. They're starting to get their wish. Most people of any political stripe don't want that. There has been strength in our past stability. Most of the world respected us or at least our position in the world. Now, due to Trump and the chaos he creates, the world sees us as weakened and our leader as a joke. Not good when a major event occurs and our leader is looked at askance not knowing what he will do or to what extent he can or can't be relied upon. Rational folks wouldn't put "trust" and "Trump" in the same thought. A giant oxymoron with the emphasis on MORON.
All presidents, being people, are imperfect. They make mistakes. They make promises that, despite their effort, don't come to fruition. But Trump is in a category all by himself. He is a conglomeration of mental and behavioral dysfunction. (Attested to by MH professionals.) Because he is such a bizarre exception to anything we've seen in the White House, people are gobsmacked at such gaslighting of our government and nation. Most energy is being expended on recovering from and responding to his malfeasance, exploitation of loopholes and protocol and routine ethical breaches. Are you willing to bank on your governmental favor (or your team winning) in exchange for your government and country being in shameless disarray for however long he lasts?
To the world, it looks like we took a really mentally ill, sociopathic billionaire and gave him, not just the keys to the asylum, but to our government. And isn't that what happened? Imagine.
I'm seeing some Trumpers waking up and other diehards starting to ask questions. How long before that last 1/3+ figures it out?
As much as we have lost to Islamists, the Dutch are in process of losing far more. They just don't seem to realize it yet. They are slowly losing their very country to a new demographic that cares not for Dutch culture and tradition.
If that's the case, then the Dutch would certainly know that better than you would.
They're smart people. If what you postulate is a fact and they don't seem to care, why should I? Do we as Americans know what's best for Holland more so than the Dutch?
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Originally Posted by Redshadowz
Do you have something intelligent to say?
Guess this answers the question.
None of that actually addresses his concerns regarding the Islamification of Europe.
Nor does resistance to Islamic immigration translate into a desire to fight in foreign wars. And nor does favoring Islamic immigration translate into a lower probability of terrorist attacks on your country.
Do YOU have anything intelligent to say?
BTW... what concerns? Again, if the Islamization of Holland is a fact, then that's a matter for the Dutch, isn't it? So what "concern" should I have as an American? The Dutch are a hearty people....lord knows that they understand the concept of self preservation. I'm sure that they'd do whatever they can to preserve their society.
But if they don't ... that's hardly any concern of mine.
That's rich coming from someone who doesn't even live in the US.
You have no business insulting those of us who voted for Trump. We voted for him because we didn't like the way that the country was heading. If Hillary had won, she would have kept us on the same ruinous road that Obama (and previously GW Bush) had us on.
We were tired of out of control illegal immigration, unprotected borders, watching our jobs leave the country, watching H1-B visa holders being used to displace American workers and tired of politicians who put their mega-rich donors ahead of their constituents. We were tired of Obama suing states that made immigration laws that mirrored federal ones while sanctuary jurisdictions were allowed to function with impunity. Along those lines, we were disgusted when he wouldn't let ICE and the Border Patrol do their jobs.
I'm willing to give Trump 4 years to see what he can accomplish. No president is a dictator (although Obama acted like he was one) and has to work with congress and the senate. Trump has allowed ICE and the Border Patrol to once again do their jobs and he has done work to bring back jobs to the US.
Some suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome and to them, every single thing Trump does is horrible---even if it benefits them. They are close-minded and don't think for themselves. If I was willing to give Obama a chance, they should be able to do the same for a president that didn't get their vote.
How so?
I'm insulting the unintelligent people in the US, if you class yourself as one of them then that's on you. Anyone with a brain can see that Trump is not cut out to be President, his Administration is full of scandal and possibly treason, and all he cares about is getting more money to his family and his friends no matter what consequences that has for the rest of America.
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Originally Posted by floridanative10
Far Right Populist parties used to be fringe parties with little more than small single digit support. Its amazing that people like hofer in Austria and wilders have won such high levels of support, not mention hungary and all over eastern Europe and we are talking about the national front of having a serious chance in french elections!
Open borders, immigration and multiculturalism are not winning formulas for success. Trump is riding a populist and nationalist wave thats happening all over the west
Its a Fascist wave he's riding and its worrying, very worrying that it has become so popular in Europe but it'll swing back, Trump is helping it swing back as voters here see what's happening in the US.
I'm insulting the unintelligent people in the US, if you class yourself as one of them then that's on you. Anyone with a brain can see that Trump is not cut out to be President, his Administration is full of scandal and possibly treason, and all he cares about is getting more money to his family and his friends no matter what consequences that has for the rest of America.
Its a Fascist wave he's riding and its worrying, very worrying that it has become so popular in Europe but it'll swing back, Trump is helping it swing back as voters here see what's happening in the US.
^^^^All this is just your opinion---and nothing more.
And there you go again---insulting Trump voters. It's especially worse since I explained to you why those of us voted for him. Yet you ignored it all.
Really? That why the biggest party won but lost seats and Make The Netherlands great again became the 2 no party !
The socialist party lost almost 2/3 of their seats!
Keep the facts real!
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