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I personally would have been perfectly fine with repealing Obamacare and not replacing it with anything. I know that myself, my family, and almost everyone I know would have been better off, since our health care was fine before Obamacare came along. The "increased uninsured" really is just the people who gained insurance under Obamacare, most of whom are self-entitled freeloaders and leeches who contribute nothing to society and yet want free benefits. Many of them are also illegal aliens and anchor babies. Many also live in the inner-city and are used to generational welfare dependency.
Maybe Trump shouldn't have kept any of the provisions? That probably would have gotten more conservative Republican votes and got the repeal bill passed. I disagree with the age 26 thing because kids should learn to be independent. I think age 23 is the absolute max that a "child" should be covered under their parents' insurance. But I guess in a world where college students and "young adults" still need safe spaces with teddy bears age 24 or 25 isn't truly grown up yet especially if they go to college.
Trump overall DOES NOT Have to reach out to the liberals. Nothing he does will ever satisfy them, but can cost him support among his base. He won this election with his base and as long as he keeps his base satisfied and sticks to his guns, he can win AGAIN without the votes of liberals and Democrats. I sure hope he never compromises on the wall or on deporting illegals.
Please tell me what Trump did that you perceive as reaching out to liberals, either for this bill specifically or in general.
Because this liberal sure didn't see it.
He wanted to keep some of the provisions like the age 26 requirement I mentioned above, if you had read my complete post. He also wanted to keep the things about pre-existing conditions in Obamacare.
I (like the conservative Republicans in Congress) would have preferred that Obamacare been completely dismantled and not replaced with anything, for us to go back to the way things were before because that worked out best for myself, my family and my community. Almost everyone I know was hurt by Obamacare and we just want the old system back, with less illegal aliens and anchor babies abusing it and more insurance competition across state lines. If we bring more jobs back, reduce illegal immigration, end job killing regulations we will also have more money for health insurance.
The people who benefited from Obamacare are mostly illegal immigrants, anchor babies, the ghetto BLM type Democrats and others who feel entitled and don't want to work for their healthcare or for anything.
Trump is also less serious now about actively deporting more illegals. I guess liberals don't consider DUI a serious crime anymore and don't think illegals convicted of it should be deported?
He won this election with his base and as long as he keeps his base satisfied and sticks to his guns, he can win AGAIN without the votes of liberals and Democrats.
I think part of the problem for Trump is that he won in part largely because many people disliked Hillary a lot more than Trump. In other words, Trumps base isn't large enough. Many republicans voted for him simply because he wasn't Hillary or a democrat. That is perhaps in part why he is seeing that he hasn't had full support of republicans to get this bill passed.
But I do agree, this was Obamacare light. Hindsight, he should have repealed without replace and seen how that was received.
I personally would have been perfectly fine with repealing Obamacare and not replacing it with anyone. I know that myself, my family, and almost everyone I know would have been better off, since our health care was fine before Obamacare came along. The "increased uninsured" really is just the people who gained insurance under Obamacare, most of whom are self-entitled freeloaders and leeches who contribute nothing to society and yet want free benefits. Many of them are also illegal aliens and anchor babies. Many also live in the inner-city and are used to generational welfare dependency.
Maybe Trump shouldn't have kept any of the provisions? That probably would have gotten more conservative Republican votes and got the repeal bill passed. I disagree with the age 26 thing because kids should learn to be independent. I think age 23 is the absolute max that a "child" should be covered under their parents' insurance. But I guess in a world where college students and "young adults" still need safe spaces with teddy bears age 24 or 25 isn't truly grown up yet especially if they go to college.
Trump overall DOES NOT Have to reach out to the liberals. Nothing he does will ever satisfy them, but can cost him support among his base. He won this election with his base and as long as he keeps his base satisfied and sticks to his guns, he can win AGAIN without the votes of liberals and Democrats. I sure hope he never compromises on the wall or on deporting illegals.
Wow, you really don't have a clue do you. My best friend couldn't get health insurance because of her medical history. She has Lupus. One of daughters has scleroderma. There are only a few doctors who specialize in this so they had to go out of state to get treated. These are not leeches. They are just desperate for health insurance like everyone in congress gets.
He wanted to keep some of the provisions like the age 26 requirement I mentioned above, if you had read my complete post. He also wanted to keep the things about pre-existing conditions in Obamacare.
I would have preferred that Obamacare been completely dismantled and not replaced with anything, for us to go back to the way things were before because that worked out best for myself, my family and my community. Almost everyone I know was hurt by Obamacare and we just want the old system back, with less illegal aliens and anchor babies abusing it and more insurance competition across state lines.
Trump is also less serious now about actively deporting more illegals. I guess liberals don't consider DUI a serious crime anymore and don't think illegals convicted of it should be deported?
I'm sure the old way would've worked out nicely for you... Until you actually needed to use it one day, only for your insurance company to drop you like a hot potato.
"Thanks for the premiums, sucker! Good luck with your cancer"
Or until you got laid off, and then couldn't find insurance because you are considered someone with a preexisting condition because you had an ear infection once.
That's the type of insecurity you want to go back to?
What was “in” the bill that made it acceptable? You still pay money for a healthcare bill that didn’t cover very much of anything needed. Why buy a ½ of a bill for any amount of money if you don’t get coverage?
I can get car insurance at a fraction of the cost I’m paying now but it won’t cover much of anything.
I personally would have been perfectly fine with repealing Obamacare and not replacing it with anything. I know that myself, my family, and almost everyone I know would have been better off, since our health care was fine before Obamacare came along. The "increased uninsured" really is just the people who gained insurance under Obamacare, most of whom are self-entitled freeloaders and leeches who contribute nothing to society and yet want free benefits. Many of them are also illegal aliens and anchor babies. Many also live in the inner-city and are used to generational welfare dependency.
Maybe Trump shouldn't have kept any of the provisions? That probably would have gotten more conservative Republican votes and got the repeal bill passed. I disagree with the age 26 thing because kids should learn to be independent. I think age 23 is the absolute max that a "child" should be covered under their parents' insurance. But I guess in a world where college students and "young adults" still need safe spaces with teddy bears age 24 or 25 isn't truly grown up yet especially if they go to college.
Trump overall DOES NOT Have to reach out to the liberals. Nothing he does will ever satisfy them, but can cost him support among his base. He won this election with his base and as long as he keeps his base satisfied and sticks to his guns, he can win AGAIN without the votes of liberals and Democrats. I sure hope he never compromises on the wall or on deporting illegals.
I nominate this post as the biggest pile of crap of the month. And there's been plenty of competition here. Trump is fast approaching the point when he will have to reach out for any support he can get. Any worry on his part of alienating the hard-right element is pointless, as they have no power, except when they merge with other republicans. He's finished for being able to change healthcare, except that his cabinet members may try to further sabotage the ACA, by denying funding and tightening regulations as much as they can, to weaken it.
How are all those hard-working, but low-paid Trump voters who have nothing but the ACA, going to feel, about being called self-entitled freeloaders and leeches?
I nominate this post as the biggest pile of crap of the month. And there's been plenty of competition here. Trump is fast approaching the point when he will have to reach out for any support he can get. Any worry on his part of alienating the hard-right element is pointless, as they have no power, except when they merge with other republicans. He's finished for being able to change healthcare, except that his cabinet members may try to further sabotage the ACA, by denying funding and tightening regulations as much as they can, to weaken it.
How are all those hard-working, but low-paid Trump voters who have nothing but the ACA, going to feel, about being called self-entitled freeloaders and leeches?
OP clearly shows how ignorant and out of touch he is in not knowing who truly benefits from the ACA and the fact that Trump did nothing to get the Democrats onboard. The rest of his post is just gibberish and not worth responding to...
I nominate this post as the biggest pile of crap of the month. And there's been plenty of competition here. Trump is fast approaching the point when he will have to reach out for any support he can get. Any worry on his part of alienating the hard-right element is pointless, as they have no power, except when they merge with other republicans. He's finished for being able to change healthcare, except that his cabinet members may try to further sabotage the ACA, by denying funding and tightening regulations as much as they can, to weaken it.
How are all those hard-working, but low-paid Trump voters who have nothing but the ACA, going to feel, about being called self-entitled freeloaders and leeches?
I live in a very pro-Trump area in the South and most people had good insurance before. Most people also had good jobs in coal mining and other industries and some in agriculture that have been decimated by the EPA and government overregulation. Obamacare was designed as part of Obama's redistribution of wealth and racial justice philosophy to benefit the inner city and illegal immigrants. These have been the main beneficiaries of Obamacare.
By the way in the past.....my aunt had cancer and her BlueCross plan covered her entire treatment and she still lives a good lower middle class life. People here are blue collar for the most part but we have our pride and dignity, not like the illegals and the people in the ghettos in the big cities thank you very much.
Once NAFTA is renegotiated and once the wall reduces illegal immigration, more Americans will be working and receiving insurance in that manner.
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