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Have you been living under a rock? We anti-illegals have always said that the employers need to be stopped. We are for e-verify and severely punishing the employers who hire illegal aliens. On the other hand the pro-illegals only want to blame the employer but not the illegal aliens at all. They are both equally guilty of breaking the law and they both must be held accountable.
We have also complained about the foreigners being brought here on visas to do tech jobs. Now once and for all, we are for the wall along with punishing the employers, deporting illegal aliens, stopping outsourcing and insourcing of foreigners taking American jobs. Get it now???
Just making sure, because most anti-illegals seem to be significantly more excited about building the wall as opposed to targeting the employers. The campaign slogan was "Build the Wall!", not "Expand E-verify!"
It's not very racist to inconvenience the agriculture and hospitality business leaders. They are mostly white and walk on water. The republicans want to do this in the most racist way possible to satisfy their knuckle dragger base.
You should be ashamed of yourself for posting this. There are unlimited visas for legal, foreign ag workers and only 2% of illegals are doing those jobs. Who cares if these greedy, law breaking employers are incovenienced? Why would you mention the white race? How is it racist to want our immigration laws respected and enforced? Illegal alien isn't a race it's an unlawful status in our country. Try debating without the juvenile name calling. In short, grow up!
Reading all the anti-illegal immigrant, and sometimes the occasional anti-legal immigrant posts, I always wonder why everybody is targeting the immigrants who are "stealing the jobs", and absolutely no one is willing to blame the employers. Why is nobody complaining about the sleazebags who choose to hire illegals instead of American citizens? Why is nobody complaining about the tech companies who hire from abroad instead of trying to find college graduates here in the United States? If you support Trump's Wall, shouldn't you also support heavier penalties/restrictions on the scummy owners using illegal labor?
Because the employers own the politicians. That's why.
Your solution is "spot on". If there was no demand for the labor, they wouldn't come. But then again, imagine trying to hold the elite accountable AND asking them for campaign donations. Not gonna happen in our current system.
It's funny. The people who scream the loudest are the ones who are the most guilty. Just like all your GOP politicians who introduce Anti-LGBT hate-bills, and guess who you usually find in the stalls with an under-age boy. GOP Senators and Moral-right preachers. Same story, different crime.
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Because a lot of Americans don't want to do the jobs many illegals do, like picking watermelons in 100+ degree heat.
I love the whole "they're stealing our jobs" line from some (not all) conservatives. Yeah, because I see so many illegal Mexicans working middle-class jobs.
Most undocumented, illegal Mexicans are doing the jobs many Americans turn their noses up at, like pushing a broom, cleaning bathrooms, picking fruit, and washing dishes.
Just making sure, because most anti-illegals seem to be significantly more excited about building the wall as opposed to targeting the employers. The campaign slogan was "Build the Wall!", not "Expand E-verify!"
The slogan "build the wall" came long after their objection to illegal immigration for years and as I said you must have been living under a rock not to hear "we need e-verify" that was the slogan for years.
Because a lot of Americans don't want to do the jobs many illegals do, like picking watermelons in 100+ degree heat.
I love the whole "they're stealing our jobs" line from some (not all) conservatives. Yeah, because I see so many illegal Mexicans working middle-class jobs.
Most undocumented, illegal Mexicans are doing the jobs many Americans turn their noses up at, like pushing a broom, cleaning bathrooms, picking fruit, and washing dishes.
For the umpteenth time only 2% of illegals are picking crops and for those jobs there are unlimited visas for legal, foreign workers as it's not a career job for Americans and is only seasonal work.
Who do you think were working all those other blue-collared jobs for a fair wage before millions of cheap illegals flooded our border? Who do you think were doing roofing, construction, road work out in the heat prior to the flood of cheap illegals? Those use to pay a middle class wage. Others were entry level jobs for our American youth and the less educated or those wanting to supplement their incomes. Americans
have never turned their noses up at those jobs and I think you know it. By the way there is no such thing as an "undocumented" either.
Then the liberals will demand equal opportunity for illegal immigrants.
But you have a point. Could it be that big money companies are Liberal who want cheaper labor. They want people fighting the fight FOR illegal immigration? Essentially people are doing the big companies bidding and fighting against their own benefit. You gotta think about it and look deeper.
Me thinks it's not just the Liberal politicians who want cheap labor. Let's remember that Obama deported way more people than George Bush, which I don't think is a good thing, but it shows that Republicans never really made it their priority for one reason or another
Because the employers own the politicians. That's why.
Your solution is "spot on". If there was no demand for the labor, they wouldn't come. But then again, imagine trying to hold the elite accountable AND asking them for campaign donations. Not gonna happen in our current system.
It's funny. The people who scream the loudest are the ones who are the most guilty. Just like all your GOP politicians who introduce Anti-LGBT hate-bills, and guess who you usually find in the stalls with an under-age boy. GOP Senators and Moral-right preachers. Same story, different crime.
Oh, stop with the partisan arguments. The Democrats are just as guilty as the Republicans. If illegals didn't come here then the employers wouldn't be able to hire them either so they are both equally guilty of breaking the law. Stay on topic. This has nothing to do with LGBT rights either. I suggest you start another Republican bashing thread about that.
Because the employers own the politicians. That's why.
Your solution is "spot on". If there was no demand for the labor, they wouldn't come. But then again, imagine trying to hold the elite accountable AND asking them for campaign donations. Not gonna happen in our current system.
It's funny. The people who scream the loudest are the ones who are the most guilty. Just like all your GOP politicians who introduce Anti-LGBT hate-bills, and guess who you usually find in the stalls with an under-age boy. GOP Senators and Moral-right preachers. Same story, different crime.
I have to say, it's going to be hilarious when Trump gets all the illegals out and then all the big money Republicans realize they will have to hire American citizens and actually pay them fair wages. I bet they will change their opinion on illegal immigration very quickly once that happens
They won't even bring it up - and trumpettes completely IGNORE you- facts- a lot of LOBBYING going on- not to use E-Verify and 2- NOT the true agenda-- there are others that are illegal- like a large segment of Polish people Aug 25, 2016
In the summer of 1980, Donald Trump faced a big problem. For six months, undocumented Polish laborers had been clearing the future site of Trump Tower, his signature real estate project on Manhattan's Fifth Avenue, where he now lives, maintains his private offices and hosts his presidential campaign.The men were putting in 12-hour shifts with inadequate safety equipment at subpar wages that their contractor paid sporadically, if at all.
So that was 1980- you say- I know for a fact Tampa Trump tower that folded-2007- had illegals working it. HE does want CHEAP LABOR__
The wall is about something else-- not illegal workers- or even DRUGS-
I think the same reasons the nazis did what they did, is why a lot of things are happening under this administration- and not just about brown people, or poor and sick people- but an change of the democratic system- and why his family is in - all in the pudding.
first off trump DID NOT HIRE illegal immigrants, the company he hired to do the job did. sorry but you cant blame trump, since like any good businessman he put out bids for a contract to do a job, then hired the company that gave him the best bid. the government does the same thing. so stop blaming trump for what others do.
as for E-verify, until it gets organized properly, and can weed out legitimate applicants for a job vs illegitimate ones, then E-verify is rubbish. i wonder how many employers are using E-verify, run the information through the system, and STILL end up with illegal immigrants working on their payroll. how many people with the same social security number, but different names, are working various jobs around the country, and how many of those were subjected to E-verify and found to be legit though that system.
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Love your "Posting from Russia," status.
Our Constitution is our protection from the wealthy. It grew out of the Magna Carta and while it is not perfect, it is our basic protection from being ruled by the wealthy.
Now business owners (corporate world/wealthy) try to set themselves up as grand, important people, "wealth producers," if you will. They insist that their needs are more important than everyone else's.
This is false.
The actual wealth producers are the people actually working, producing something. The farmers growing seeds into salads are actually producing wealth. The software engineers turning ideas into medical devices are producing wealth. The miners bringing coal to market are producing wealth, turning coal into gold.
The people who trade that gold didn't produce it. They are not the "wealth producers."
Though some business owners operate honestly adding organization and solid financial management to the effort, others cheat workers out of what they're owed, scam investors out of money, appropriate or lay waste to natural resources that belong to all of us, use tax dodges to avoid paying their fair share of the freight...
Our Constitution is designed to protect the people. It is constantly being undermined for the benefit of the wealthy and going through another such test now.
If business owners don't like running their shops according to the law, then this is not the country for them.
typical marxist thinking. a business is there to make money, not employ people. they may need people as they expand, but even still jobs at these businesses are voluntary. the employee accepts the job offer, or not. their choice. no one forces someone to take a job.
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