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Old 04-05-2017, 11:13 PM
 
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ANTIFA, liberals and the like love to talk and complain about fascism yet if you add it up, communism has been responsible for far more deaths than facism. Yet both antifa and liberals worship communism. They truly believe in the idea of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

Communism in the 20th century is responsible for over 94 million deaths: Communism Killed 94M in 20th Century, Feels Need to Kill Again - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Yet if the left and ANTIFA were in full control and in charge they'd be making a system of govt of oppression, tyranny and evil in its purest form even worse than the Soviet Union and friends could ever hope to have had. Astonishing really.
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Old 04-05-2017, 11:16 PM
 
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I don't understand your point. Stalin espoused social facism; communism and facism are not mutually exclusive.
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Old 04-05-2017, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Statism has killed billions and enslaved billions more.

The approach by the authoritarian megalomaniacs is an afterthought.
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Old 04-06-2017, 05:14 AM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Since when did the numbers of bodies make a difference to tyrants?

This is shameful, disgraceful and disgusting.
Human suffering should never be measured in numbers. One is as bad as one million.
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Old 04-06-2017, 05:41 AM
 
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ANTIFA, liberals and the like love to talk and complain about fascism yet if you add it up, communism has been responsible for far more deaths than facism. Yet both antifa and liberals worship communism. They truly believe in the idea of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".

Communism in the 20th century is responsible for over 94 million deaths: Communism Killed 94M in 20th Century, Feels Need to Kill Again - Hit & Run : Reason.com

Yet if the left and ANTIFA were in full control and in charge they'd be making a system of govt of oppression, tyranny and evil in its purest form even worse than the Soviet Union and friends could ever hope to have had. Astonishing really.
It's pretty simple actually. Some view political ideology as a line, with the "far left" representing communism, and the "far right" representing fascism, implying that these systems are far apart. The reality is that it's more like a circle; at the top of the circle, we have totalitarianism, where far Left and far Right meet. There is very little difference in the effect on the proletariat in either case. Those governments have total Power with a total loss of liberty and human rights of the people; whether a communist dictator like Stalin or a fascist dictator like Hitler, it really doesn't matter from a citizen's point of view. Screwed either way.

Most of the successful governments in the world exist at the bottom of that circle, some blended system where power is shared between the citizens and the government. Of course it's a whole other argument about whether systems like that (like the USA) can survive in the long run.
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Old 04-06-2017, 06:13 AM
 
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You might have seen this before but in case you haven't:

A discourse on cows and politics.

DEMOCRAT: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. You feel guilty
for being successful. You vote people into office who put a tax on
your cows, forcing you to sell one to raise money to pay the tax.
The people you voted for then take the tax money, buy a cow and give
it to your neighbor. You feel righteous. Barbara Streisand sings for
you.

SOCIALIST: You have two cows. The government takes one and gives it
to your neighbor. You form a cooperative to tell him how to manage
his cow.

REPUBLICAN: You have two cows. Your neighbor has none. So?

COMMUNIST: You have two cows. The government seizes both and provides
you with milk. You wait in line for hours to get it. It is expensive
and sour.

CAPITALISM, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. You sell one, buy a
bull, and build a herd of cows.

DEMOCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. The government taxes
you to the point you have to sell both to support a man in a foreign
country who has only one cow, which was a gift from your government.

BUREAUCRACY, AMERICAN STYLE: You have two cows. The government takes
them both, shoots one, milks the other, pays you for the milk, then
pours the milk down the drain.

AMERICAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You sell one, lease it back
to yourself and do an IPO on the 2nd one. You force the 2 cows to
produce the milk of four cows. You are surprised when one cow drops
dead. You spin an announcement to the analysts stating you have downsized
and are reducing expenses. Your stock goes up.

FRENCH CORPORATION: You have two cows. You go on strike because you
want three cows. You go to lunch. Life is good.

JAPANESE CORPORATION: You have two cows. You redesign them so they
are one-tenth the size of an ordinary cow and produce twenty times
the milk. They learn to travel on unbelievably crowded trains. Most
are at the top of their class at cow school.

GERMAN CORPORATION: You have two cows. You re-engineer them so they
are all blond, drink lots of beer, give excellent quality milk, and
run a hundred miles an hour. Unfortunately they also demand 13 weeks
of vacation per year.

ITALIAN CORPORATION: You have two cows but you don't know where they
are. While ambling around, you see a beautiful woman. You break for
lunch. Life is good.

RUSSIAN CORPORATION : You have two cows. You count them and learn
you have five cows. You have some more vodka. You count them again
and learn you have 42 cows. You count them again and learn you have
12 cows. You stop counting cows and open another bottle of vodka.
You produce your 10th 5-year plan in the last 3 months. The Mafia
shows up and takes over however many cows you really have.

TALIBAN CORPORATION: You have all the cows in Afghanistan, which is
two. You don't milk them because you cannot touch any creature's private
parts. At night when no one is looking, you have sex with both of
them. Then you kill them and claim a US bomb blew them up while they
were in the hospital.

POLISH CORPORATION: You have two bulls. Employees are regularly maimed
and killed attempting to milk them.

FLORIDA CORPORATION: You have a black cow and a brown cow. Everyone
votes for the best looking one. Some of the people who like the brown
one best vote for the black one. Some people vote for both. Some people
vote for neither. Some people can't figure out how to vote at all.
Finally, a bunch of guys from out-of-state tell you which is the best
looking one.
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Old 04-06-2017, 06:43 AM
 
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both antifa and liberals worship communism. They truly believe in the idea of "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs".
no , they don't. they're like any pro-labor party in any other democracy.


but if we're going to call liberals "Communist" then conservatives are definitely genocidal Nazis.
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Old 04-06-2017, 06:58 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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REPUBLICAN: You have two cows. You sell them to a corporation who buys exclusive rights to all cows and raises the price of milk 5000 percent.

Democrat: You have two cows. You give the cows personhood and the right to vote. Someone said hamburger near one of the cows so you riot about the microagression. TV shows talk about species-ism and human privilege.

California: You have two cows. They put a fart tax on your cows and you owe ten million dollars. You head to the beach and surf. Barbara Streisand says you are looking in her windows from the beach and gets a restraining order.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:10 AM
 
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Democide, death by govt. Does it really matter what flavor it is?
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:25 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Communism. Fascism. Totalitarianism. All basically the same thing.
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