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Old 04-10-2017, 07:35 AM
 
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How is that a better source? It makes the same claim as The Daily Mail, with no detail at all. At least the Daily Mail gave a bit more detail.
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:51 AM
 
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Look at what's happening in Germany....

Syrian safe zones are the answer. Not bringing them into your country.

Time for people to wake up and smell reality.
"Waking up and smelling reality" would require you to apply some logical and critical thinking skills.

Violent Crime: The US and Abroad - Criminal Justice Degree Hub

Those of us who've travelled extensively would ask you to consider the U.S. having had a violent crime history far worse for decades than those countries Americans choose to scorn and still being heads and shoulders worse off crime-wise. How in the heck do you presume to have the currency to castigate Germany?

Cripes, do you people even bother to read your own news?

All of the countries routinely singled out for scorn by Americans regarding anything of a violent nature, could easily counter your nonsense with still enjoying a far lower quotient per-capita of EVERY single violent crime than the U.S.; even after assimilating refugees/asylum seekers.

So applying those aforementioned critical thinking skills would require you to conclude, using your logic, that you should close your borders to your fellow Americans because you're killing and raping each other at a minimum three times greater rate than anyone else.
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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Look at what's happening in Germany....

Syrian safe zones are the answer. Not bringing them into your country.

Time for people to wake up and smell reality.
And what would a Syrian safe zone do to prevent a Ghanaian refugee from committing rape?
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Old 04-10-2017, 07:59 AM
 
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you should close your borders to your fellow Americans because you're killing and raping each other at a minimum three times greater rate than anyone else.
Not so:

Countries Compared by Crime > Violent crime > Murder rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com

We are 14th. Even one murder is too many, of course, but there are worse.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:11 AM
 
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Is it as bad as CNN and the New York Times?
The publication is the British equivalent of the National Enquirer. much satire and much embellishment and much fake news.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:14 AM
 
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Countries Compared by Crime > Violent crime > Murder rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com

We are 14th. Even one murder is too many, of course, but there are worse.


And btw... shake down the murder statistics a bit further, and a white person in the US has a murder victimization rate about on par with a citizen of Belgium.


Most murders in the US are drug and gang related.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:19 AM
 
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Countries Compared by Crime > Violent crime > Murder rate. International Statistics at NationMaster.com

We are 14th. Even one murder is too many, of course, but there are worse.
Yes you are correct there are worse and I should have been more specific with the use of "anybody" to mean "anybody Americans usually single out to castigate".


https://www.numbeo.com/crime/rankings_by_country.jsp

You're 53rd from the worst (Kazakhstan is one better) while Germany is 95th, Sweden is 59th, Canada 78th, France 67 etc., etc..

All those and more have been singled out by Americans for scorn and derision for refugee/asylum seeker policies while for decades, and STILL enjoying a better safety index than America.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:21 AM
 
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How is that a better source? It makes the same claim as The Daily Mail, with no detail at all. At least the Daily Mail gave a bit more detail.
Okay. More reliable, less tabloid source. Happy?
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:22 AM
 
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Well, first they go overland through Africa and hook up with smugglers who put them in rafts to Italy, and then they try their damndest to get to the country who said they could take in a million refugees. Religion doesn't mean squat. This is about people seeing an opportunity and trying to get out of the hellholes where they were born. I can't say I blame them, but wouldn't it be nice if all governments were good to their people and this would not be necessary? And perhaps it would change if instead of humanitarians going out and towing the rafts to Italy instead towed them back to Africa. And they did something to stop the smugglers. Take away the incentives for coming there.
It's a "fundamental change movement", that many voted for when voting in President Obama, followed by President Bush. The progressives got a hold on what people will move Americans and other nations toward a welfare state. More refugees will outnumber those of us who think nations should keep their culture and better it for the people.


Possibly, in this guys culture, this is how they meet & greet! We are telling people from other countries, who are most likely from birth taught to hate western culture, to now embrace our lifestyle. Some will find it easy, while others, will be the same gang members that left their country.
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Old 04-10-2017, 08:23 AM
 
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And btw... shake down the murder statistics a bit further, and a white person in the US has a murder victimization rate about on par with a citizen of Belgium.


Most murders in the US are drug and gang related.
And sooooo, those other countries could then say 'but gee our stats including rapes are similarly skewed by immigrants and we're still not as bad off as the U.S.'
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