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Old 04-12-2017, 05:07 AM
 
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The airlines are a competitive industry, at least on routes with multiple airlines having flights, so overbooking probably does indeed lower the prices a little bit. If somebody voluntarily takes the vouchers when it's overbooked, I see no harm done at all. Involuntarily bumping people is a different matter though.
Your statement only reinforces my point It's an industry standard. They can oversell seats all they want, but they should have quite a problem in the event everyone shows up.


Yes they can pay people off, BUT no way should they be allowed to FORCE anyone from a flight they paid for.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:11 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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What I find chilling was that everyone on that plane knew it was wrong, yet nobody stood up for the man.

They all witnessed the "chosen randomly" scene. It wasn't like he was a criminal with an arrest warrant being detained.

It wasn't even as if they were Chicago police officers, which would be outrageous enough, but somehow more understandable.

These were rent-a-cops in denim jeans, employees of the airline industry, who assaulted and hauled off an innocent man.

A few said, "OMG!" but no one did a thing.

Chilling.

Does not bode well for the future.
What could the other passengers have done, though? Face off with security and land a spot in jail? Recording this behavior what's the best move to make, imo. Without footage of the incident, absolutely no one would have believed this ever happened.

My God. This was so horrific.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:15 AM
 
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Robbed?
Yes, robbed.

Man bought a ticket for a flight from Chicago to Louisville and had every right to expect that if he showed up and sat in the seat (for which, to add insult to injury, he probably paid an additional fee, as it was not a center seat), he would be flown to his destination.

So what if United needed seats to get a flight crew to Louisville so as not to delay a flight?

So what if United held a lottery and he was randomly chosen?

He bought a flight to Louisville. Then United employees assaulted him to get it back. That's what happened.

You could call it "refused to vacate his seat," to be "re-accomodated."

Or you could call it being robbed. Because that's exactly what happened.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:16 AM
 
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Do you have a problem with the figure? One you could, y'know, verbalize? (0.0062%, btw.)

Airlines run ridiculously low margins. (That's another one of those "fact" thingies.) If we make them fly empty seats around, what do you think will happen to ticket prices?

Nothing like a cogent, well-reasoned argument.

First off if the number is even accurate which I doubt as there is no cited source, than the number is still too high. NO ONE should be forcibly "bumped" from a seat that they paid for.


That should be ILLEGAL.


Overselling seats on an aircraft should be considered nothing else but fraud. The rationale people give for it is so they can be "competitive with other airlines" as they are doing it also. Pretty sad that I have to point out the obvious.


btw I have a cake I'm selling, but if it's not here when we said it would be we sold it to someone else, but no worries we will make another one but it might take 4 to 6 hours.

It's the industry standard.. Enjoy the hard plastic seats while you wait and have a nice day.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:18 AM
 
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What could the other passengers have done, though? Face off with security and land a spot in jail? Recording this behavior what's the best move to make, imo. Without footage of the incident, absolutely no one would have believed this ever happened.

My God. This was so horrific.
Recording it was a great move. I doubt I could even have gotten that organized. I'm not saying I would have done anything different than what everyone on the plane did.

It is just chilling that no one did.

What if it had been a pregnant woman or an elderly lady?

Would anyone would have jumped in the aisle and said, "What the hell is going on here?"
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:19 AM
 
Location: Honolulu
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Two sets of lawyer, a personal injury specialist and a company law specialist, one of them a high profile prominent Chicago lawyer who has never lost a lawsuit, have been hired by Dao to sue United.

The lawyers smell blood.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:26 AM
 
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United Airline flight 3411 will now be known as the Loiusville Slugger. The Skinhead skies of United are on my no fly list.

Skinhead skies of United.

This is a PR nightmare.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:28 AM
 
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Think about it for a moment.

Everyone is settling in when the flight attendant announces that lacking volunteers, they have randomly selected four passengers to be robbed of their seats.

When one passenger refuses, they send in goons who assault and drag him away.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:29 AM
 
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On the plus side, I suspect United won't be experiencing as many problems with overbooked flights for a while.

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Old 04-12-2017, 05:31 AM
 
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Two sets of lawyer, a personal injury specialist and a company law specialist, one of them a high profile prominent Chicago lawyer who has never lost a lawsuit, have been hired by Dao to sue United.

The lawyers smell blood.
The three who agreed to be robbed are probably kicking themselves now.
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