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Open political discourse is permitted on .003% of a college campus.
Kevin Shaw is the president of a Young Americans for Liberty chapter at L.A.’s Pierce College. According to a lawsuit he filed on March 28 against officials of the school and the Los Angeles Community College District, he was distributing Spanish-language copies of the U.S. Constitution on campus last November when a college employee forced him to stop and also ordered him not to discuss his political views with other students. According to Mr. Shaw’s filing, he was then escorted to a campus office and “forced to complete a permit application” to use the college’s “Free Speech Area.”
Mr. Shaw’s complaint describes this area as “confined by painted lines, on the side of a campus thoroughfare. The area measures approximately 616 square feet, comprising approximately .003% of the total area of Pierce College’s 426-acre campus.” So the school is explicitly exercising speech control over 99.997% of its territory, a feat that would make Vladimir Putin jealous. Someone will need to remind us again what the purpose of a college is.
What's going on on some college campuses with regards to limiting free speech is truly sad. I wish the state governments would take a good look and make sure that colleges that receive public money are held accountable and allow unencumbered free speech.
College campuses want to be in control of all speech on campus otherwise they cannot properly indoctrinate their students. I am willing to wager no one needs to get a permit to have a Gay Pride march or a Che celebration event all over campus.
Colleges are afraid of those who exhibit free thought. They are afraid of those who challenge the indoctrination they seek to implement. They are opposed to people knowing the truth and using that truth to guide them in their daily lives and in the way they vote.
I don't need a permit to speak my mind freely, and neither should anyone else because it is our natural right to be able to think and speak freely, especially on land like college campuses, where taxpayer money is used to fund anything that happens on that public campus. If they want it to be a private campus, they should be required to not accept a dime of government money from any government source including government student loans.
Open political discourse is permitted on .003% of a college campus.
Kevin Shaw is the president of a Young Americans for Liberty chapter at L.A.’s Pierce College. According to a lawsuit he filed on March 28 against officials of the school and the Los Angeles Community College District, he was distributing Spanish-language copies of the U.S. Constitution on campus last November when a college employee forced him to stop and also ordered him not to discuss his political views with other students. According to Mr. Shaw’s filing, he was then escorted to a campus office and “forced to complete a permit application” to use the college’s “Free Speech Area.”
Mr. Shaw’s complaint describes this area as “confined by painted lines, on the side of a campus thoroughfare. The area measures approximately 616 square feet, comprising approximately .003% of the total area of Pierce College’s 426-acre campus.” So the school is explicitly exercising speech control over 99.997% of its territory, a feat that would make Vladimir Putin jealous. Someone will need to remind us again what the purpose of a college is.
Jesus, you snowflakes!! Getting a permit and being cordial are STANDARD procedures!!!!
Anyone who ever has to gather signatures or sell girls scout cookies outside a supermarket/big box store can tell you that they have to get permission from the establishment!!! And they have to stay within their own area!!
You have never had anyone came up to you and sold you girl scout mint cookies while you were shopping in the milk isle or in the parking lot right?!!!! Right??!!! That's a reason for that. Those areas are OFF LIMIT!!! They are only confined to the area close to the entrance. That's it!!!
Same with a university. Nobody said he couldn't distribute the Constitution, but he MUST follow the ground rules like everyone!! Even if he is just distributing a cupcake recipe, he still MUST follow the rules.
Now snowflakes, do you understand how ridiculous this thread is??!!
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Jesus, you snowflakes!! Getting a permit and being cordial are STANDARD procedures!!!!
According to the lawsuit, he needed permit to even use this tiny "free speech zone."
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Originally Posted by beb0p
Anyone who ever has to gather signatures or sell girls scout cookies outside a supermarket/big box store can tell you that they have to get permission from the establishment!!! And they have to stay within their own area!!
False equivalency. Private company vs. public institution.
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Originally Posted by beb0p
You have never had anyone came up to you and sold you girl scout mint cookies while you were shopping in the milk isle or in the parking lot right?!!!! Right??!!! That's a reason for that. Those areas are OFF LIMIT!!! They are only confined to the area close to the entrance. That's it!!!
Even more false equivalency. Commercial activity vs. speech.
A "Free Speech Area?" To distribute copies of our US Constitution in Spanish? And some are just okay with what the college did or that the college even has a "Free Speech Area?" It's not like it's a Bible. And people are comparing it to selling Girl Scout Cookies? Is this a joke? Last I knew the Constitution applied to all citizens, blind to any political persuasion. I could see a problem if the guy was disrupting class, but that's not stated.
I remember a year ago students walking through a college library, cursing, disrupting, making disparaging comments about a particular race, shoving students of that race, and zero was done. Of course, the college has suffered greatly with a loss of students, but that's another story.
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