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Old 04-12-2017, 02:28 PM
 
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No, no... read it. You don't have to comment... just read it.

Here's another one for you...

Ukraine Tried to Tip the Election in Clinton’s Favor

Those documents implicated Trump’s former campaign manager, Paul Manafort, who worked as an adviser for now-ousted Ukrainian President Viktor F. Yanukovych. However, the concerns that the documents raised weren’t in fact over any quasi-Russian ties, though partisan reporting pushed his narrative. Rather, the documents raised the question of whether Manafort declared the income that he had received from the position. The Podesta Group, a lobbying firm co-founded by Clinton Campaign Chair John Podesta, also conducted work for Yanukovych. However, the Manafort narrative not only painted Trump as pro-Russian, but also provided the Clinton campaign with a smear campaign while reaffirming its stance against Russia. It was in Ukraine’s best interest to tilt the election in support of Clinton, who strongly advocated for providing Ukraine with military aid and financial support in order to fight Russian separatists in the country.
DRob, I edited my post...

I'm glad that we can agree that the Russians definitely meddled in the 2016 U.S. Presidential Election.

 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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Are you saying that Germany should have attacked us when it was exposed we were intercepting Merkel's phone calls? (and others)

Do you comprehend the difference between passive spying, and active interference in a election? Or is that something you avoided in order to defend Russia?
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:36 PM
 
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Do you comprehend the difference between passive spying, and active interference in a election? Or is that something you avoided in order to defend Russia?
How do you know how we used the information? Are you really trying to argue we never interfere in the elections of other countries? Really?
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:42 PM
 
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OK....and? I think he is a moron.

You are making the same stupid assumptions so many make. That I support Trump. I DO NOT. I think he is a moron also. Trump didn't win because of the Russians. Trump won because Hillary was truly a horrible choice. One that the DNC had to resort to cheating to get the nomination.

I'm simply willing to place the blame where it belongs.

Now call me a misogynist.
You understand that nothing you've posted deals with the topic of the thread...

It's been Hillary's servers and DNC corruption and Tillerson's a boob...

For a guy who doesn't support Trump, why exactly are you here deflecting so hard against what Tillerson said today?
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:43 PM
 
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So you're saying that U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, appointed by President Donald Trump, confirmed by a Republican-controlled Senate, and fourth in line for POTUS - is a liar?!?!
A liar? You are in no position to defend that assertion since you did not post the full quote or a link to the full quote.
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:45 PM
 
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You understand that nothing you've posted deals with the topic of the thread...

It's been Hillary's servers and DNC corruption and Tillerson's a boob...

For a guy who doesn't support Trump, why exactly are you here deflecting so hard against what Tillerson said today?
I'm simply not willing to wallow in conspiracy theories. Hillary lost because of Hillary, period. The Russians had nothing to do with it.

Get over it and find a better candidate next time.
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:46 PM
 
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A liar? You are in no position to defend that assertion since you did not post the full quote or a link to the full quote.
I caught it as it was breaking news, and was hoping for a better link.

Later, I did add a link to the source.

I also noted that the exchange occurred during a televised join press conference between Secretary Tillerson and Minister Lavrov, and that it might be on the news shows tonight.
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:50 PM
 
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I'm simply not willing to wallow in conspiracy theories. Hillary lost because of Hillary, period. The Russians had nothing to do with it.
That's one person's uninformed opinion. A high ranking official in the Trump says otherwise.

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Get over it and find a better candidate next time.
Sigh...John Kasich didn't get the GOP presidential candidate nod...even though I voted for him the primaries...so I voted for Grandma Nixon in the general election...

Who did you vote for in the 2016 U.S. presidential election?
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:51 PM
 
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That's one person's uninformed opinion. A high ranking official in the Trump says otherwise.
No, he does not.

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Sigh...John Kasich didn't get the GOP presidential candidate nod...even though I voted for him the primaries...so I voted for Grandma Nixon in the general election...

Who did you vote for in the 2016 U.S. presidential election?
Jill Stein.
 
Old 04-12-2017, 02:53 PM
 
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How do you know how we used the information? Are you really trying to argue we never interfere in the elections of other countries? Really?

Any country which we did that too is more then welcome to do something about it. And many have.

Nice movement of the goalposts by the way, but affecting a foreign countries elections is not a friendly act, and should not be ignored. Sorry you aren't a fan of fair and honest elections.
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