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Old 04-13-2017, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Apologize, wanted to put this in the Politics thread.

100 New Apartments for the Homeless Approved by Santa Ana | Voice of OC

Wow, $407,000 for a homeless apartment and to be paid for by government welfare vouchers!

I have to laugh at liberals solutions to the homeless crisis in the major cities?

From $407,000 apartments in California to New York City putting the homeless in expensive, posh hotels.

These are the 30 posh hotels where NYC places its homeless | New York Post
What's your solution?

Did you read the NY Post lin? . Attempts to convert hotels / flophouses are met by opposistion by community groups.

People do not want mentally ill, drug addicted,chronically unemployed people on the street or in their neighborhoods. It's as non partisan as it gets.

Utah has done a terrific job housing homeless people. The Mormon LDS Church took ownership of the challenge.

Or maybe NYC could put all the homeless on buses with one way tickets to your community.

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Old 04-13-2017, 06:19 PM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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So what is your solution??
Soylent green?


I think $400,000 a unit is a bit excessive. I live in a nearly new (10 yr old) walled estate home with a 40 mile view and 3 car garage and it is only worth $350,000 - and if I don't pay my HOA and taxes to support people living in apts that cost more than my house, then "I" will be homeless.

And I'm a wartime (not combat) veteran too, so yes I have earned to right to comment on this.
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Old 04-13-2017, 06:22 PM
 
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Soylent green?


I think $400,000 a unit is a bit excessive. I live in a nearly new (10 yr old) walled estate home with a 40 mile view and 3 car garage and it is only worth $350,000 - and if I don't pay my HOA and taxes to support people living in apts that cost more than my house, then "I" will be homeless.

And I'm a wartime (not combat) veteran too, so yes I have earned to right to comment on this.

If the contention is over the price, not whether or not we should house homeless vets, then I get it.

But that does not seem to be the OP's point.
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Old 04-13-2017, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It's cheaper to house the homeless than it is to let them live on the streets. It's also the humane thing to do.
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So what is your solution??
It's cheaper to give them $10, a brown-bag lunch and a parachute, then kick them out the back of a C-130 over Libya, Tunisia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Iraq, Syria or some other place, where begging is considered a worthy job for someone to hold.
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Old 04-13-2017, 06:40 PM
 
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It's cheaper to house the homeless than it is to let them live on the streets. It's also the humane thing to do.
But not at $407,000 per housing unit.
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Old 04-13-2017, 07:05 PM
 
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Charity should be private.
Agreed. Causes that people are behind will get funded accordingly to how strongly people feel towards it. And if it gets no charity money? Then it wasn't a worthy cause to begin with. Its wrong for the government to force tax payers to provide what is essentially a charity. This is why I havent given money to charity in years, my tax dollars are already funding things that should be left to private donation and so I'm already strapped for cash.

In my city there were also apartments set aside for the homeless, and they're better than some of the modest apartments I used to live in when I worked 50 hour weeks and paid $700 a month.

Theres a South Park episode about the homeless and one of the good ideas of how to solve it was "Lets turn them into tires".
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Old 04-13-2017, 08:31 PM
 
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It doesn't get them off the streets. You won't stop them from being homeless, they choose to be.

As for it being a liberal issue, it is... every liberal city that has such policies are swarming with homeless problems.

Being poor is not the same as living in poverty, there are many people in conservative areas that while not having much income, tend to own their homes or live in a manner that isn't "impoverished". There is a major difference between liberal slums and rural conservative poor areas.
Have you looked at statistics showing where government spending is going to most for living assistance? It's not the homeless for obvious reasons, it's the poor living in the poorest areas of the country which is in poor conservative areas. The out migration of funds vs gaining of these Funds based on what each area/state produces is clearly from blue/liberal to red/conservative.

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Old 04-13-2017, 08:36 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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Soylent green?


I think $400,000 a unit is a bit excessive. I live in a nearly new (10 yr old) walled estate home with a 40 mile view and 3 car garage and it is only worth $350,000 - and if I don't pay my HOA and taxes to support people living in apts that cost more than my house, then "I" will be homeless.

And I'm a wartime (not combat) veteran too, so yes I have earned to right to comment on this.
Where do you live?

A $400,000 apartment would be an absolute dump where I live anywhere that is accessible by public transit. I imagine it's not too different in this area.
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Old 04-13-2017, 08:39 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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Wow, $407,000 for a homeless apartment and to be paid for by government welfare vouchers!
Yeah. For homeless veterans.

Per the article you posted:
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The first project the council voted to support, Santa Ana Veteran’s Village, will be a 75-unit housing and service center for homeless veterans
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Services will include case management, employment help, mental health services, Veterans Affairs assistance, and free legal help
Didn't realize that helping homeless veterans with housing and services was a bad thing.
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Old 04-13-2017, 10:50 PM
 
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It's cheaper to give them $10, a brown-bag lunch and a parachute, then kick them out the back of a C-130 over Libya, Tunisia, Somalia, Afghanistan, Myanmar, Iraq, Syria or some other place, where begging is considered a worthy job for someone to hold.

I really wish we can do that because that means we can also load all the conservatives on planes and drop them off in other countries more suitable for them.

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