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Old 04-17-2017, 05:42 PM
 
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Anyone know what Trump actually meant with all the "America First" talk?
With all the use-the-nukes comments by trumpissts... I'm afraid that what trump actually meant is that "American will be First to use its Nukes".
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Old 04-18-2017, 06:56 AM
 
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With all the use-the-nukes comments by trumpissts... I'm afraid that what trump actually meant is that "American will be First to use its Nukes".
That's funny, but we've already been there done that. Read a history book.
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Old 04-18-2017, 07:57 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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That's funny, but we've already been there done that. Read a history book.

Japan attacked us, has N Korea?

Or should we nuke a nation based on nothing but possibly, maybe, could be?
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Japan attacked us, has N Korea?

Or should we nuke a nation based on nothing but possibly, maybe, could be?
well, if you want to go there, I would say economic sanctions on Japan first leads to the attack.

So what difference does it make?
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Like most of those who go into the swamp of globalism, Trump is being swallowed by it. He soon came to believe that the way to America First is through meddling in the affairs of other countries and engaging in perpetual, losing war. It has happened time and again since WWI. Don't blame Trump totally either. Most Americans are all in on policing the world and the super-hero, caped crusader image that we were raised on, too. You see it from the left and the right. I don't know what it is going to take for this country to wake up and come home, do right by our own people first. I think we are about to stumble into another quagmire in the middle east and an absolute mess in Korea - neither of which truly affect our national security and should be managed by the people who live in those regions. Very frustrating.
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The word "ally" is overrated.

It is like friend with benefit. It is all about economic interests. It will never change.
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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On the campaign trail, Trump said we should stay out of Syria and concentrate on #MAGA

However, just 100 days into his presidency, Trump has bombed Syria, dropped the biggest non-nuclear bomb in the American military arsenal, and sent warships to north Korea.


So much for Trump concentrating on "America First."
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Old 04-18-2017, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Georgia
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That is why he is playing the strongman- for Americas sake. Hillary lost- for your own mental healths sake- get over it.
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Old 04-18-2017, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Maybe he's just trying to neutralize the biggest threats to world peace in his first year so he can focus the next 3-7 on America first?
Thee will always be a "biggest threat to world peace", whatever happens with the current ones. It has never been possible to neutralize the biggest threat and then withdraw to focus on other issues, and it isn't possible now.

I'm no isolationist, but our constant military meddling has led to blowback, and now we're on a treadmill with no easy or safe way off.

Trump was never the guy who could or would cut back. That "biggest swinging you-know-what in the room" is an attitude that Trump has in abundance, and decades of electing leaders with this attitude is exactly the reason why we are in this fix.
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Old 04-18-2017, 09:27 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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well, if you want to go there, I would say economic sanctions on Japan first leads to the attack.

So what difference does it make?

Do you really believe there's NO difference between nuking a country that's done nothing to you as some here suggest and one that's attacked you?

From what I read our economic sanctions on Japan consisted mainly of prohibiting the export of certain materials there. What reason is there to believe we didn't have the right to determine wehre materials from the US were sold/shipped? To justify Pearl Harbor because of those sanctions is to say Cuba and any other country we've embargoed would have been justified in attacking the US.
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