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They'll figure it out. Probably sponsor coding academies to find talent. It's about time. Importing foreign workers is such a cop out.
Ah, you sound like the majority of Americans....aka, I'm entitled to this and that. I'm owed a job because I'm a special snowflake
04-18-2017, 09:02 PM
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I wasn't aware that H1B visas weren't being issued anymore. I have not heard that anywhere but here. I heard rumors of an executive order on H1B visas, but that's about it.
You hadn't heard it because it's a lie from the cult.
No matter what, h1b workers are educated people with a four-year college degree. Many of them have a PhD from a US university.
Shutting the door off actually prevents high quality immigrants from coming to the US. Many of them will then choose to work in Canada, Europe and Asia.
Americans like to blame others for all problems. Blame China, blame India, blame Mexico. It's ok as a political strategy, but I hope people also see it through.
Just a thought. If you are for the free market and being the master of your own destiny then was is the problem with h1bs? We often hear about how bad American
unions are bad for business. But is denying foreign workers another form of a union?
It seems the right is against internal unions but not external ones. Peculiar ideology.
No matter what, h1b workers are educated people with a four-year college degree. Many of them have m a US university.
Shutting the door off actually prevents high quality immigrants from coming to the US. Many of them will then choose to work in Canada, Europe and Asia.
Americans like to blame others for all problems. Blame China, blame India, blame Mexico. It's ok as a political strategy, but I hope people also see it through.
It isn't. I dont know where the "quality" of these h1b visa holder comes from, as I havent had one yet that could hold a candle to any of the American IT professionals that they replaced at my company over the last 10 years. When I have a series of Indian visa holders, one after the next, attempt and fail to fix a problem, and one of the few Americans we have left takes care of the issue in an hour, it doesnt take a Rocket Scientist to figure it out who is efficient and who isn't.
The outsourcing companies will be affected the most. They flood the system with the most applications and pay lower salaries for lower skilled and sometimes entry level type work. These are the ones displacing americans. They don't have work for them unless they get another company to give them work. So toys r us lays off their staff and hires the outsourcing company with workers from India. The work being done by these guys are not expert or revolutionary like nuclear science or bio engineering...an american was doing the job already. This type of practice will be banned. I don't see the need to import accountants or low level IT analysts. The lottery system should change also. Google and Apple etc can pay the highest for the greatest and brightest real expert talent and not lose out to the limited number of visas to an outsourcing scammer.
The Indian companies pay their workers in India so they can avoid paying US taxes their living expenses are deducted from their pay that way none of the money they spend here is taxable.
It isn't. I dont know where the "quality" of these h1b visa holder comes from, as I havent had one yet that could hold a candle to any of the American IT professionals that they replaced at my company over the last 10 years. When I have a series of Indian visa holders, one after the next, attempt and fail to fix a problem, and one of the few Americans we have left takes care of the issue in an hour, it doesnt take a Rocket Scientist to figure it out who is efficient and who isn't.
I don't need to hear your biased story. There's no doubt that Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Apple have the highest bars in IT employment, much higher than your company does, and they all hire many h1b workers.
The Indian companies pay their workers in India so they can avoid paying US taxes their living expenses are deducted from their pay that way none of the money they spend here is taxable.
Not true. Those who are physically not in the US cannot get a work visa. In fact Amazon temporarily relocates some workers to Canada when they can't get the visa.
What you described is probably outsourcing, which is not h1b visa.
I don't need to hear your biased story. There's no doubt that Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Apple have the highest bars in IT employment, much higher than your company does, and they all hire many h1b workers.
Yeah, having an H1B doesn't make anyone a good or bad engineer. You still have to do your due-diligence, but it opens up the pool to many more candidates.
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