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Old 04-19-2017, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Yep. They toss around "white working class" as if whites are the only working people in this country.

Frankly, a lot of conservatives actually believe that to be true. Maybe even most conservatives.
The title does not mention a race. On average black working men are harmed even greater than white working men by illegal immigration. It is just not near as big an issue with blacks because they got a lot of other issues that lead to them voting Democrat.
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Blue collar workers aren't just employed in manufacturing jobs or coal. They are plumbers, electricians, painters, tile and carpet installers, mechanics, AC techs, linesmen, welders, iron workers, etc. These guys (and ladies) are highly skilled, some studied to be in the trade, others have years of experience, are journeymen. Some are union and some are not. While some may not be college educated, they are paid well. These jobs are not just "viable," they are extremely necessary.

Union households went for Trump when, in the past, they were typically Democrat. Democrats took the blue collar workers for granted, and did nothing to court them. Democrat leaders told Clinton, from what they were seeing, she needed a jobs/economy message, and she refused and/or failed.

"These people are working harder and harder to stay in the same place," per the articles below. Democrats did nothing for them. Democrats are STILL missing the problem, STILL don't understand it. [snip]
Agree with you carol. The Democrats have abandoned the working class and the middle class. The Progressives outright hate them, their values, their religion, their self-sufficiency. They hate the rich, too. Why? Because Progressives want people dependent on Government.

Progressives want more illegal and legal immigrants. The more competition for jobs filled by low skilled illegal and high skilled legal foreign talent, the more wage competition and the lower the wages. The more people dependent on Government programs, frustrated by low wage growth, and hopeless for the future, the greater the votes for Progressives.
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The Democratic party took for granted the blue collar voter because the unions ALWAYS backed the democrats. They also take the black vote for granted knowing they will always vote democrat because they tell blacks a good line of garbage of promises and do nothing for them. Then they got greedy and went for the illegals and any group for the vote. Trouble is the people realized they were getting the shaft and voted Trump.
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:47 PM
 
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I don't think Democrats gave up on the blue collar worker, I think the blue collar worker is just unwilling to accept that their type of jobs are no longer viable in the modern world and nobody is going to bring them back. They believed the lie that Trump would bring coal and manufacturing back, which is the only reason they voted for him instead of Democrats.
But blue collar workers think the Democrats gave up on them. Obama and Hillary both talked down to them and were dismissive of them.
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Old 04-19-2017, 08:02 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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The Democratic party took for granted the blue collar voter because the unions ALWAYS backed the democrats. They also take the black vote for granted knowing they will always vote democrat because they tell blacks a good line of garbage of promises and do nothing for them. Then they got greedy and went for the illegals and any group for the vote. Trouble is the people realized they were getting the shaft and voted Trump.
True. But Trump will also give them the shaft.

When will we the 99% wake up and realize that BOTH parties are giving us the shaft? Stop voting for these scumbags.
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Old 04-19-2017, 09:29 PM
 
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the ugly racist and heartless "send them back " bs hurts us in many ways, not all of them today.
How does it hurt us? I note that you don't give any explanation here.
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Old 04-19-2017, 09:39 PM
 
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Anti-white sentiment has a lot to do with it. Especially amongst those of the hard left and those of the, shall we say.... Semitic persuasion.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:11 PM
 
Location: 130 Miles East of Sacramento, CA
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It's not just illegals. They want to give lazy people that don't want to work free money and exploit them for their votes.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Republicans conveniently ignore the fact that big business loves exploiting undocumented workers. The GOP is establishment is against immigration reform precisely because companies love having a giant underclass of workers they can pay lower than the minimum wage. Until there is a path to citizenship, you'll have undocumented workers driving down wages. Unfortunately for us, the Republican party is completely owned by corporate interests.
Yep just look at Trump's cabinet. At least half of the picks were donors who have their own corporate interests. It's really just the pot calling the kettle black.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:56 PM
 
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They believed the lie that Trump would bring coal and manufacturing back, which is the only reason they voted for him instead of Democrats.
Actually theres a LOT of reasons we voted for him and you don't understand the conservative mindset at all if you think lost jobs are the only reason. For many people such as myself, bringing back lost jobs is something I had some level of skepticism about and is far lower ranking than a whole host of other reasons. Two things to me that were bigger reasons was immigration/border security, as well as a stand against liberal identity politics and political correctness. Just "jobs" alone is far too generic a reason for any candidate to win the presidency in these wildly divided times we live in.
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