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Old 04-18-2017, 10:54 AM
 
Location: Houston
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I guess they expect to get the hispanic vote to make up for losing blue collar white voters.
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Pine Grove,AL
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I guess they expect to get the hispanic vote to make up for losing blue collar white voters.
why is it perceived that Democrats did either when both parties have the same immigration policy, one simply says to secure the border first while the other says help the people first.

also, why are only white people considered the working man ??????

and why do you only talk about Hispanic illegals ????
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:06 AM
 
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Republicans conveniently ignore the fact that big business loves exploiting undocumented workers. The GOP is establishment is against immigration reform precisely because companies love having a giant underclass of workers they can pay lower than the minimum wage. Until there is a path to citizenship, you'll have undocumented workers driving down wages. Unfortunately for us, the Republican party is completely owned by corporate interests.
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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I guess they expect to get the hispanic vote to make up for losing blue collar white voters.
I don't think Democrats gave up on the blue collar worker, I think the blue collar worker is just unwilling to accept that their type of jobs are no longer viable in the modern world and nobody is going to bring them back. They believed the lie that Trump would bring coal and manufacturing back, which is the only reason they voted for him instead of Democrats.
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Secure Bunker
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Identity politics works a lot better with immigrants than Joe the Farmer in Indiana.
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:11 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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I guess they expect to get the hispanic vote to make up for losing blue collar white voters.
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why is it perceived that Democrats did either when both parties have the same immigration policy, one simply says to secure the border first while the other says help the people first.

also, why are only white people considered the working man ??????

and why do you only talk about Hispanic illegals ????



We have to define what the word "is" is today?




https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...=.a89ebed98238
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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I guess they expect to get the hispanic vote to make up for losing blue collar white voters.
Meanwhile, thanks largely to decades of uncontested Democrat rule, life for blacks who live disproportionately in our inner-cities, has only worsened. Failed schools, violent crime, fatherless homes, government dependency, and being taken for granted by Democrats, has resulted in a community as forgotten and ignored as the Rustbelt working class.

In other words they thought they had them in the bag.
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:13 AM
 
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I don't think Democrats gave up on the blue collar worker, I think the blue collar worker is just unwilling to accept that their type of jobs are no longer viable in the modern world and nobody is going to bring them back. They believed the lie that Trump would bring coal and manufacturing back, which is the only reason they voted for him instead of Democrats.
Your supposition here is that American manufacturing will never come back. Why is this acceptable to you?
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Meanwhile, thanks largely to decades of uncontested Democrat rule, life for blacks who live disproportionately in our inner-cities, has only worsened. Failed schools, violent crime, fatherless homes, government dependency, and being taken for granted by Democrats, has resulted in a community as forgotten and ignored as the Rustbelt working class.

In other words they thought they had them in the bag.

"uncontested Democrat rule"?

Were you asleep from 2001-2017?
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Old 04-18-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Republicans conveniently ignore the fact that big business loves exploiting undocumented workers. The GOP is establishment is against immigration reform precisely because companies love having a giant underclass of workers they can pay lower than the minimum wage. Until there is a path to citizenship, you'll have undocumented workers driving down wages. Unfortunately for us, the Republican party is completely owned by corporate interests.


And so is the Democratic Party.


https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php




There is one guy standing with working Americans and he is now President, but don't think for a minute corporate whores on both sides of the isle wouldn't love get rid of him.
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