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Old 04-19-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Mmm link?
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.was...-cancer-walks/
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Old 04-19-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Participants typically solicit pledges for $X per mile from friends, family and others.

The Susan B Komen org raises serious tend of $ millions this way, each year.

Can't imagine anyone being offended. Don't like it? Don't participate or pledge.
Susan G Komen is a scam and no one should ever donate money to that organization. "Breast Cancer Awareness" -- Who doesn't know about breast cancer, seriously?

The the biggest reason to not give any money to SGK is because most of your money doesn't go towards cancer research, but advertisements.

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The silly Ice Bucket Challenge raised $ 115 million for ALS.

It helped fund the research scientists did that led to the discovery of a new gene tied to ALS.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/h...-als.html?_r=0
I'm not against the charity, I'm just wondering why we resort to dumb events which have NOTHING to do with the charity being collected for.

Why not just ask for donations instead of doing some stupid ice bucket designed to make people look like fools? How will "walk for cancer" help cure cancer at all?

I'll donate without needing ice dumped on my head, thanks
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Old 04-19-2017, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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It doesn't bother me, I just see it as pointless.

People would mock "carry large bags of sand across a field for charity" because it serves no purpose.

Instead of leisurely running or walking, why not have a luncheon?
Because different charity events attract different kinds of people.

Runs, polar plunges, obstacle courses, etc. attract people who would be running anyway. Charities just capitalize on an already existing trend. I am very actively involved with a charity that gives out bibs for the Boston Marathon. Some people *just* want the experience of running the Marathon and will fundraise a significant amount for a charity in order to earn a number. Several of our runners this year had no affiliation with the nonprofit in general, though most had a connection. If someone doesn't have the qualifying time for many races, they can "buy" their way on through fundraising. Win-win.

We even had a pair row across the Atlantic in a race fundraising for our event - with fundraising a requirement of the race itself on top of race fees. Would they have raised money for us otherwise? Probably not - but they certainly would have wanted to do the race (though rowing a boat from Spain to the Caribbean isn't exactly my idea of fun, more power to them..). Seeing people put themselves through such physical challenges inspires them to give.

This same nonprofit also has comedy nights, luncheons, dinners, parties, casino nights, silent auctions, etc. to support its mission in cities countrywide. Each even attracts a different crew. For instance, I'm not likely to run a marathon but I help plan the comedy nights. The more staid events are less likely to engage with younger people, however, and often have price points of entry that bar all but the wealthiest. Outside of major races like the Boston Marathon, most race entry fees are fairly low and offer a tangible reason for friends to give to your cause. I've been very involved with several young adult cancer/illness, hospital, or lymphoma charities since my own stage IV cancer diagnosis at 23. You'd think that would be enough of a reason for people to give, but no - I *always* raise more money when doing *something*.


PS - for those of you saying charities are scams, citations needed. Or are you arguing that no one who works for a charity or nonprofit should get paid? Oy vey. Anyone can look up a 990.
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Old 04-19-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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I can think of a lot of things to critique in life. This is not one of them
Quoted for truth.
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Old 04-19-2017, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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I'm not against the charity, I'm just wondering why we resort to dumb events which have NOTHING to do with the charity being collected for.

Why not just ask for donations instead of doing some stupid ice bucket designed to make people look like fools? How will "walk for cancer" help cure cancer at all?

I'll donate without needing ice dumped on my head, thanks
Given how much money was raised for ALS research as a result of the Ice Bucket Challenge, it's obvious that other people *weren't* donating without ice being dumped on their head.
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Old 04-19-2017, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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No.

I am 100% opposed to a "social safety net" because it's funded via theft. I know you get that part about me.

I am only against "charity" within the confines of statism because nearly all, perhaps all, charities within this paradigm are crooked schemes. Many "private" charities within our current statist paradigm use State loopholes/schemes to benefit themselves.

I'm pro-voluntary charity (which is redundant I know) that isn't a front or shady. As it stands now even charity has been corrupted by statism.

You can do your own homework on these "charities" and see for yourself. Where I differ from the majority (aside from being a crazy anarchist) is the percentage of charities that are actually "clean". It's seriously closer to 0% imo.
So you did your homework? Please share with the class.
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