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Old 04-19-2017, 04:23 PM
 
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I made a friendly wager with a few friends a few months ago that Target will eventually bite the dust like Kmart. They looked at me cockeyed and all but declared me delusional. My rationale is this: Amazon and Target are fighting for the very same customers. More so than any other national big box retailer. These customers are tech savvy and they are a little more upscale than Wal-mart shoppers. Also, Target tends to appeal to Millennials, who many by now have small children. Shopping with small children makes the task much more difficult. Amazon Prime offers two day free shipping on pretty much anything you could possibly want. There will be no need to go to Target, and Target will suffer greatly for it. I'm convinced.
They already are suffering in some ways. I don't think they'll bite the dust, but I think their business model is going to change substantially in the future. They need to figure out ways to get people to come into their stores vs. shopping online. They can't just be Amazon local - they need a differentiation. Things like offering grocery items is important for this reason (e.g. I like Amazon, but I'm not buying produce that I can't touch/pick up first).
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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People rejecting the automation and non-personality of it all and wanting to revert back to a "culture"
e the numbers are saying you are completely wrong. We can see more and more online purchasing not less.

even the big box stores are feeling the pain. This is going to end up with fewer local retailers and more distribution points, perhaps some will offer drive up pick up where you dont get out of your car? so that busy folk can just collect it all a day or so later.

have you used Amazon locker? scan the docket a door pops open and you put your stuff in or out. DONE. no queue no hassle . we have one at the local supermarket, a marriage made in heaven.

some specialist stores have many years to go, many others not so much.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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No big deal. Trump is giving new life to US manufacturing. Employers are ready to ramp up, whenever the US workforce is ready to bring some new life into key industries that democrats nearly killed off. The bleeding is over, and America is finally going to be staging a comeback, now that the sissy nanny state losers have been thoroughly crushed!

Make America great again, and make it in America, once again!
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:30 PM
 
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No big deal. Trump is giving new life to US manufacturing. Employers are ready to ramp up, whenever the US workforce is ready to bring some new life into key industries that democrats nearly killed off. The bleeding is over, and America is finally going to be staging a comeback, now that the sissy nanny state losers have been thoroughly crushed!

Make America great again, and make it in America, once again!
Wow another cheerleading non informative , non specific bottish post. Not your A game andy.

Under trump feb and march job creation was down compared to last year with Obama, so that means OBAMA is better than Trump. and it means one more month and we have a "trend" ..

Will you cheerlead trump to the bottom, or do you have a line..?
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:31 PM
 
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None of those fields require a college degree, that's just wrong. They ONLY require experience if not starting out as the laborer. If someone is too damn dumb to read a calculator, tape measure or follow simple instructions they might as well eat a bullet. BTW, if a college degree was required, the fields wouldn't be overstocked with illegals.
Many of the positions in these fields require education of some sort to excel and get above entry-level positions. Maybe it's at a local college, or its offered through their union. But they still need to have that educational background to succeed in their field. And that content is often very STEM-focused. Some positions are filled primarily by people that have the expertise in the STEM-heavy areas.

I know some people my age (early 30's) working their way up in the trades (HVAC, machinist, electricians, and plumbing in these examples), and all of them have had to take some sort of coursework.

The paths to these jobs may not be traditional (HS -> 4 yr college -> job), but they still require this kind of STEM knowledge. And it's not all learned on the job.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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No big deal. Trump is giving new life to US manufacturing. Employers are ready to ramp up, whenever the US workforce is ready to bring some new life into key industries that democrats nearly killed off. The bleeding is over, and America is finally going to be staging a comeback, now that the sissy nanny state losers have been thoroughly crushed!

Make America great again, and make it in America, once again!
US manufacturers have been making unprecedented investments in custom industrial robotics over the past 5 years. A late 2015 survey of 500 global manufacturing CEOs by Deloitt &Touche concluded the US is positioning to reclaim the top spot for global manufacturing by 2020 based on the investments in custom industrial robotics designed to be more productive that the cheapest sources of labor.

Assuming this projection is realized, it did not dependent on who was elected in 2016.

We are not talking about our daddy's factories of the past that used to employ the masses under collective bargaining agreements.
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Old 04-19-2017, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Under trump feb and march job creation was down compared to last year with Obama, so that means OBAMA is better than Trump.
LOL

Using your logic, Obama is fully to blame for the bad economy he inherited. The economy was bad during the first three months of his presidency, therefore, Obama is "bad."

I swear, some people have as much capacity for objective thinking as my dog.
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:04 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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What is it with the perpetual belief that people are just too stupid and too lazy to do anything? I have way more faith in the American people than you do. Most folks want to work and make something of themselves.
We were discussing aging retail workers who might be displaced.

I see they don't get NEAR as much sympathy as out of work coal miners.

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No need to be a ****. Who said anything about people being too lazy or stupid to do anything?

Read about working at an Amazon warehouse. The pace is physically demanding and a lot of people just can't keep up. It's not a matter of being lazy, it's a matter of racing here, racing there, reaching up and having to meet a goal of so many picks per hour, repetitive stress injuries... all for a $10/hour job.

It's the type of jobs that are available to low-skilled workers, but people want more than that out of life.
It really sounds like a dreadful job in the articles I have read. If these are the 'jobs of the future' I pity society.
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:35 PM
 
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LOL

Using your logic, Obama is fully to blame for the bad economy he inherited. The economy was bad during the first three months of his presidency, therefore, Obama is "bad."

I swear, some people have as much capacity for objective thinking as my dog.
no actually i don't believe it is Trump's fault at all.

but given the sheer volume of posters here openly lying and claiming BS like "trump created 600K jobs since taking over, i am simply replying in kind.

The truth is Trump has not really done anything at all yet ref jobs. He has made noise but produced zero policy on it. During the election Trump swore he had a plan to get america working. Yet here we are 100 days in and Trump has yet to produce anything other than wind...

Where is the plan, the policy the ideas? How is trump going to bring back coal jobs? so far trump has done nothing suggested nothing other than lower costs by allowing mine owners to pollute more?

Trump spoke of manufacturing, apart from rhetoric where is the policy that can make this real? Is trump planning some sort of tax incentive to reshore? what where are the actual tools to achieve this stated goals?


I ask you in all honesty, apart from saying he is going to black box us jobs, where is the policy and what is it?
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Old 04-19-2017, 05:40 PM
 
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It really sounds like a dreadful job in the articles I have read. If these are the 'jobs of the future' I pity society.
They do sound dreadful. Some places employees wait for up to 45 minutes on their own time to be frisked before leaving to be sure they haven't stolen anything. Many of them work through temp agencies.
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