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Old 04-19-2017, 10:29 PM
 
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I get it, you don't know.

You are complaining that a group is getting away with not paying their fair share and how it impacts the disabled, yet you have no idea as to the number of people or the dollar amounts.

Clearly, you just want people with more than you to be punished for their success.

Let me know when you actually have some data.
What are you talking about? SSI is not funded by payroll taxes but by general tax revenue. SSI is a program that supports the people who are born disabled. SS on the other hand is a payroll tax based retirement security program.

The fact that you dont even know this just shows that you indeed have never supported politicians that support raising the SSI benefits for the disabled. Because you DONT support it because you are more interested in carrying the water for the wealthiest section of society that is doing phenomenally well. Not the disabled who have to survive on $700 a month.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:35 PM
 
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What are you talking about? SSI is not funded by payroll taxes but by general tax revenue. SSI is a program that supports the people who are born disabled. SS on the other hand is a payroll tax based retirement security program.

The fact that you dont even know this just shows that you indeed have never supported politicians that support raising the SSI benefits for the disabled. Because you DONT support it because you are more interested in carrying the water for the wealthiest section of society that is doing phenomenally well. Not the disabled.
I'm talking about how you keep complaint about the SS cap in so many of your posts.

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Medicare has no cap on taxes. It was eliminated decades ago. The same needs to be done with Social Security as income inequality skyrockets, more and more of total income will be exempt from social security taxes, meaning less and less funds coming in.
You sure do love trying to dodge the fact that you don't even have any grasp on the data for which you argue.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:37 PM
 
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I'm talking about how you keep complaint about the SS cap in so many of your posts.
You are confused. The SSI is NOT funded by SS and is not affected by the SS cap.

Increasing support for the disabled through SSI is done SEPARATELY from raising the SS cap to shore up SS.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:41 PM
 
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You are confused. The SSI is NOT funded by SS and is not affected by the SS cap.

Increasing support for the disabled through SSI is done SEPARATELY from raising the SS cap to shore up SS.
And?

This thread was about SS until you drug SSI into it.

I'm talking about SS right now. How many people are above that cap and what is the average amount they save due to the cap?

Do you not know?
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:43 PM
 
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See, this is why conservatives can't stand you liberals. I already pay about $40,000/year in income taxes. And here you guys are talking about how I need to pay even more.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:44 PM
 
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And?
And? It shows you dont even know the basics of SS and SSI. You thought scrapping the SS cap would affect the disabled and want numbers on how many will pay more SS tax. You are just confused, its no wonder you cant find this information yourself.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:45 PM
 
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See, this is why conservatives can't stand you liberals. I already pay about $40,000/year in income taxes. And here you guys are talking about how I need to pay even more.
The OP is conservative.

SS isnt an income tax. Its a payroll tax. And scrapping the cap would benefit conservatives the most. Progressives are campaigning hard to ensure SS is taxed like the Medicare tax. A flat tax on all income with no cap. It is something most Americans totally agree with and the GOP struggle in rural areas whenever these issues are brought up. Thats why they focus on the gays and the guns and the abortion issues instead.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:48 PM
 
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And? It shows you dont even know the basics of SS and SSI. You thought scrapping the SS cap would affect the disabled and want numbers on how many will pay more SS tax. You are just confused, its no wonder you cant find this information yourself.
You know the three rules of dodgeball I see.

This is why you should stick to the topic. When you keep jumping all over the place, you can't keep up with the conversation.

Two subjects;

1. SS caps and how you oppose them.
2. SSI and how I don't think it should not be increased through any tax dollars until we reign in wasted money such as foreign aid.

But we both know, this is your typical ploy to dodge questions and data.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:54 PM
 
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SSI and how I don't think it should not be increased through any tax dollars until we reign in wasted money such as foreign aid.
What a cop out. Every single tax payer will always disagree with some spending. Thats not an argument for ensuring that the most vulnerable Americans, the people born disabled, will have to suffer. No libertarian politician support boosting SSI. I bet most want to eliminate it. Its a program that is despised by the big money interests funding libertarianism. So its on the chopping board.
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Old 04-19-2017, 10:59 PM
 
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What a cop out. Every single tax payer will always disagree with some spending. Thats not an argument for ensuring that the most vulnerable Americans, the people born disabled, will have to suffer. No libertarian politician support boosting SSI. I bet most want to eliminate it. Its a program that is despised by the big money interests funding libertarianism. So its on the chopping board.
It's not a cop out at all.

If some family says they don't have enough money to feed their kids, but they are making payments on a boat. The spending problem needs to be addressed first.
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