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Yes. Even though I thought some of his pledges would have been impossible to implement (free tuition?) I think he was sincere and his heart was in the right place. He's a good man. Most of us who voted for Hillary just didn't have anyone else to vote for. If only the Dems could come up with another good, decent, caring man like Bernie. Maybe not quite such far fetched ideas, but the same personality type--sincere. I think a person like that could still unite the country. We are sick of the bellowing from both sides.
Free tuition isn't far fetched. Considering the amount of debt millions of Americans are in, a tax which would go to fund postsecondary education for all would be CHEAPER than what Americans are now saddled with.
No one stole a primary from Bernie, he decided to run as Democrat when 70% of his base identified as independents.
You know what that means in a closed primary, you lose 70-30. he is lucky so many Democratic states had open primaries or the loses would have been much worse.
If people didn't vote for him because he was on the Democratic ticket, they are STUPID. I would vote for him no matter what ticket he ran on. If he was on the Republican ticket, I'd have supported him just the same.
Independents need to get it through their skulls, that unless and until party and election reform come about people like Bernie Sanders, and yes even Donald Trump (who isn't a true conservative), have to choose between the two major tickets on which to run.
He may have put the country over himself, but I feel like I can't respect myself if I support the Democrat party (as opposed to a Democrat politician).
To me, the party is corrupt and damaged beyond redemption. Any Democrat who comes from the "system" is basically persona non grata to me at this point. Outsiders with looser ties might get my attention, but they are bound to be sabotaged by their "own" party.
We need to have a TOTAL electoral system overhaul in order for people like Sanders, Trump, etc. to be able to run without being on one of the two major party tickets. No one else has a chance until states stop demanding RIDICULOUS guidelines to appear on the presidential ballots (general and primary) which cost candidates millions of dollars to achieve. We need to demand that third party candidates like Sanders, Trump, Johnson, etc. get as much coverage and air time as the two major parties. The ONLY reason Trump got the coverage he did was because he was already a star. If he was just some dude from New York, he would NEVER have gotten the play he did in the media.
No one stole a primary from Bernie, he decided to run as Democrat when 70% of his base identified as independents.
You know what that means in a closed primary, you lose 70-30. he is lucky so many Democratic states had open primaries or the loses would have been much worse.
Agree, no one stole the primary from him, & he pragmatically decided to run as a Democrat while remaining, as he has always been, a Social Democrat. He is Independent as well, as he has always been, i.e. he actively retains the right? the ability? the skill? to critically & creatively think for himself, & on behalf of the people he represents. American people have entrusted him with these fiduciary responsibilities for over 40 years, he is, in a word, trustworthy. A significant trademark of his 'brand' is to remind or to encourage his constituents to also, always & in all ways, to independently think for themselves & make decisions based on rational thinking strategies, just as he does.
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I'm not talking about the general election - the reasons for HRC loss are fairly well-understood. In the electoral college system, she didn't do well enough in swing states (often losing by very slim margins).
I'm speaking very specifically about the idea that the DNC candidacy was stolen from Bernie. No, it was not. He didn't get enough primary votes to win the DNC candidacy. It is that SIMPLE.
Agree here as well along with your other well-reasoned posts to this thread. Mr. Sanders intended to rationally persuade others to join him in influencing the direction of the Democratic Party. It was & is his intention to do so & he is still successful in this pursuit.
We need to have a TOTAL electoral system overhaul in order for people like Sanders, Trump, etc. to be able to run without being on one of the two major party tickets. No one else has a chance until states stop demanding RIDICULOUS guidelines to appear on the presidential ballots (general and primary) which cost candidates millions of dollars to achieve. We need to demand that third party candidates like Sanders, Trump, Johnson, etc. get as much coverage and air time as the two major parties. The ONLY reason Trump got the coverage he did was because he was already a star. If he was just some dude from New York, he would NEVER have gotten the play he did in the media.
Agree here also, Mr. Sanders was & is attempting to rationally persuade a movement in these common sense directions.
Re: bold: this made me laugh because I continue to see Bernie Sanders as "just some dude from NY" even though I'm familiar with his many accomplishments. He is way more representative of the 'typical NYer' than is the fraudulent con & bs artist & present occupant of the White House.
Free tuition isn't far fetched. Considering the amount of debt millions of Americans are in, a tax which would go to fund postsecondary education for all would be CHEAPER than what Americans are now saddled with.
Pretty sweet deal until you become a tax payer. There is no such thing as a free ride. Every program must be funded. “Free” college would be no different.
The government would be the middle man taking their huge handling fee, then they'll able to exert more control over said universities.
Free tuition isn't far fetched. Considering the amount of debt millions of Americans are in, a tax which would go to fund postsecondary education for all would be CHEAPER than what Americans are now saddled with.
Yes it is. People should not NEED to go to college to get a job. There are plenty of other kinds of jobs that don't require college--vocational school, even community college. They would get decent jobs and not have student debt. We all pay for everyone's education up through high school. Beyond that, it's up to them to decide whether or not they need college in addition. Guidance counselors need to stop pushing everyone toward college. If you have the intellect, you can probably get a scholarship; otherwise, think outside the box and figure out an alternative.
Free tuition isn't far fetched. Considering the amount of debt millions of Americans are in, a tax which would go to fund postsecondary education for all would be CHEAPER than what Americans are now saddled with.
Yeah, $75 billion a year for free tuition at public colleges is just 0.4% of annual GDP. The Iraq war was $3 trillion or 50 years' worth of free tuition.
Time to invest in the quality of life of the American people, not endless war mongering that Trump and the dominant media push for. The media always ask how we can afford anything that improves the lives of the American people, but how often do they ask whether we can afford gifts to big pharma, bailouts, wars etc.?
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