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Old 04-22-2017, 11:12 AM
 
Location: FL
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Obama Promises To Lower Health Insurance Premiums by $2,500 Per Year...

My insurance premiums went UP by $5,640 a year... (now costs me $11,040 a year)





Obama: Premiums Will Decrease 3000% So You Should Get A Raise When H'care Is Passed

My insurance premiums went UP by $5,640 a year... (now costs me $11,040 a year)


As you know this is about Trumps promises that he didn't keep. At least had a plan. The republicans have been working on health care for almost 8 years and couldn't come up with something better.
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:15 AM
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Location: Middle Tennessee
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And soon to follow will be, but WE WON!!! WE WON!!! WE WON!!! which is their fallback whenever they are called out on how abysmal their party is at governing. As if winning is all there is. Actual governing? Yeah, not so much. But who cares what happens after WE WON!!! WE WON!!! WE WON!!! anyway. That's all that matters, right?
Alone with "WE WON' don't forget "Lying Liberal Media" and "Obama Did _________". All looked upon as valid responses for this dumpster fire of an administration.
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Exactly. I wish Democrats would have debated it out like this and if they did we wouldn't have the mess in the first place.
The ACA was debated on the floor in the open, which is a lot more than I can say for the GOP with their closed door meeting and zero debate. Yes in the end the democrats forced it through but the republicans had no interest in expanding health care either under Bush or Obama, they were just interested in failure and did their best at every point whether lawsuits or filibuster.


I did not hear a debate on the house floor, maybe I missed it. They have been against anything Obama did for the last 8 years, now it's time to come up with something better than just repealing the ACA.
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Florida
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"None of this is really surprising. As has been well-documented, Trump—though he claims to be a "builder"—actually made most of his hay in the private sector by licensing his name. He's the guy who makes big promises at the ribbon-cutting and gets the name of the project in the newspaper, not the guy who gets the permits and arranges the funding and hires the subcontractors. He doesn't make things; he talks. (When he does try to make things, they go bankrupt.)"

I have noticed that for years.
MAGA - 'Make America Great Again' may go the way of Trump's last MAGA - 'Make AtlanticCity Great Again.'
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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The problem is, unlike with Newt Gingrich and the Republican "Contract with America" in the past, the President isn't the one in the position to actually implement the plan. It is the Congress that must do the work of putting together the legislation; and, in the case of "Repeal and Replace," the plan they came up with wasn't satisfactory to many people, nor was it what was promised by even Trump. That's why it was pulled.

The President isn't a dictator. He must work within the Constitutional limits on his power. He can tell Congress what he wants, but they have to write the bills and pass them, and in order to prevent problems with Democrats who vowed to fight against "repeal and replace," and to ensure passage of the plan, it had to be done in such a way that they could use what is called "reconciliation."

Secondly, some saw it more important to get tax reform done first and put off "repeal and replace" till after that was done, so when the first attempt at "repeal and replace" was taken off the table, they turned their attention to getting started on tax reform.

So ...this isn't a failure of Trump as much as it is a failure of Congress, and they have been criticized, especially Paul Ryan, for their failure.

The "first 100 days" is a meaningless measure and standard that has been created by the media. What's more important is that these things are well underway before the end of the year, and that things like tax reform and "repeal and replace" are done right. We don't want another "we have to pass this bill so we can find out what's in it" situation. (Thank you, Nancy Pelosi)
First of all stop making excuses for Little Hands. He was the one that said he was the only one that could fix everything. Furthermore, the buck always stop with the President not Congress - remember Harry Truman?

Regarding the 100 days it was Donny that started crowing about how much he was going to get done in the first 100 days, on his first day in office. So he owns this lack of progress and nothingburger he has served up lock stock and barrel. But per usual he is now trying to spin it as it was no big deal and nothing to see here.

There is plenty to see here, and that is this lying man child, is in over his head and not qualified for the job he is in!

Making America Mediocre Again!
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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Because he's not a dictator. He isn't the one who makes law. Congress makes law. They have to write the legislation and get it passed before Trump can sign it into law. I'm surprised you don't know this.
Well apparently Trump wasn't aware of that.
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:36 AM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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The problem is, unlike with Newt Gingrich and the Republican "Contract with America" in the past, the President isn't the one in the position to actually implement the plan. It is the Congress that must do the work of putting together the legislation; and, in the case of "Repeal and Replace," the plan they came up with wasn't satisfactory to many people, nor was it what was promised by even Trump. That's why it was pulled.

The President isn't a dictator. He must work within the Constitutional limits on his power. He can tell Congress what he wants, but they have to write the bills and pass them, and in order to prevent problems with Democrats who vowed to fight against "repeal and replace," and to ensure passage of the plan, it had to be done in such a way that they could use what is called "reconciliation."

Secondly, some saw it more important to get tax reform done first and put off "repeal and replace" till after that was done, so when the first attempt at "repeal and replace" was taken off the table, they turned their attention to getting started on tax reform.

So ...this isn't a failure of Trump as much as it is a failure of Congress, and they have been criticized, especially Paul Ryan, for their failure.

The "first 100 days" is a meaningless measure and standard that has been created by the media. What's more important is that these things are well underway before the end of the year, and that things like tax reform and "repeal and replace" are done right. We don't want another "we have to pass this bill so we can find out what's in it" situation. (Thank you, Nancy Pelosi)
So when Obama was President, did you blame congress too considering Republicans had both houses for 6 of his 8 years in office?
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:37 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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So Donny's first 100 days end next Saturday and he made a promise to pass 10 specific pieces of legislation during that time. They are listed below and as you will see none have been or will be accomplished during the 100 day period or ever for that matter. Is this what Little Hands meant by "winning" because this feels like losing to me!

Repeal and Replace ObamaCare Act - Nope (nice try I guess)

Middle Class Tax Relief - Nope

End to Offshoring Act - Nope

American Energy and Infrastructure Act - Nope

School Choice and Education Opportunity Act - Nope

Affordable Child Care and Elder Care Act - Nope

End illegal Immigration Act - Nope (Another good try but stupidly handled)

Restoring Community Safety Act - Nope

Clean up Corruption in Washington Act - Nope

Restoring National Security Act - Nope

Lastly, remember that border wall Mexico was going to pay for - well you all know the rest of the story.

Just Saying!


Making America Lose Again!

The faithful will say that makes him PERFECT!
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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He released his Contract with America. Now he's trying to blow it off instead of owning it. Bad form.

The US loves the underdog. Time for some humility. This too shall pass.
yes indeed..can you imagine the good will that would come from just a simple admission by him that his goals were overly ambitious? But no, instead he acts like my little grandson who gets red faced and teary eyed when we tell him his shoes are on the wrong feet and argues with us that they aren't.
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:45 AM
 
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MAGA - 'Make America Great Again' may go the way of Trump's last MAGA - 'Make AtlanticCity Great Again.'
Morons Are Governing America.
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