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Well, your free to throw away your washing machine and hire a laundress. Free to throw away your lawnmower and hire a gardener who will clip your lawn with a pair of scissors. Free to stop buying processed foods and hire a cook.
Well, your free to throw away your washing machine and hire a laundress. Free to throw away your lawnmower and hire a gardener who will clip your lawn with a pair of scissors. Free to stop buying processed foods and hire a cook.
Maybe you're the problem?
People are going to REALLY freak out as they lose their jobs, and can't work in their field anymore. Its why we do need to help the coal miners. But as you point out...no ones going to go back in time for them. But we will see a TON of joblessness over time, and people complaining about it suggesting that we do EXACTLY that. Meanwhile technology will keep advancing.
Which is great from a historical perspective, but its 2017, and this is a problem unlike any ever seen before.
Try to realize that whats coming is NOTHING like we have ever seen before.
As many have stated, basic income is all but inevitable. And even then its a stop gap. Its inevitable....when we can actually afford it. The Soviet Union couldn't, and we cannot. But as we replace people we become increasingly able to afford it. And its inevitable. The questions we need to ask are how we will deal with it, what will happen as work disappears, and what wealth will really mean.
Seriously, some of the stuff coming looks like magic.
Extended lifespans? Trials are underway on humans on things that rejuvenated elderly mice back to their youth. That alone will blow apart our ideas of work.
Neural lace?
4-5 years for repairing disability, 10-12 for enhancement that is truly freakishly amazing.
We're at the corner of the changes coming from exponential change. And we are unprepared.
People are freaking out about the impact of self driving cars, and the unemployment. But whats coming is far far more extreme.
Basic income. It's going to become a necessity because there is no stopping automation. It will come eventually to just about every industry and profession. People will not be able to earn a living through no fault of their own. There will have to be some kind of social safety net. It's inevitable.
A universal basic income is unlikely, since the politicians work for the people with the money, who would have to pay for UBI.
Most likely, the bottom 99% of Americans will live like the masses in third world countries: dirt poor with no political power.
Basic income. It's going to become a necessity because there is no stopping automation. It will come eventually to just about every industry and profession. People will not be able to earn a living through no fault of their own. There will have to be some kind of social safety net. It's inevitable.
Nonsense! What it means (and, FWIW, I'm not enthused about it at all) is that those displaced from making useful things will be directed toward providing useful personal services instead.
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Well, your free to throw away your washing machine and hire a laundress. Free to throw away your lawnmower and hire a gardener who will clip your lawn with a pair of scissors. Free to stop buying processed foods and hire a cook.
Maybe you're the problem?
And it's an unfortunate fact that personal service is something everyone likes to get, and nobody wants to be stuck with providing.
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And since any idiot can provide "useful personal services," those jobs will pay minimum wage or less.
This is the future: 1% of the population will control an automated system for enriching themselves, and the other 99% will be reduced to shining their shoes.
Yup! ----- sorta.
Actually, there are plenty of jobs opening up that require additional skills -- peripheral jobs in health care, for example. But they almost always involve working with that collection of foibles, insecurities and hang-ups called a human being. And not all the customers, (especially those closer to the start and end of the life span, or not able to articulate their wants, needs and feelings clearly) are easy to work with.
You can make a very good living out of a lot of these -- but they're not suited for a burned-out introvert who wants to be a video-game tester.
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Nonsense! What it means (and, FWIW, I'm not enthused about it at all) is that those displaced from making useful things will be directed toward providing useful personal services instead.
And since any idiot can provide "useful personal services," those jobs will pay minimum wage or less.
This is the future: 1% of the population will control an automated system for enriching themselves, and the other 99% will be reduced to shining their shoes.
We are being prepared for a society with much less ownership and a sharing economy. Kids now don't dream of buying houses and cars. They don't want responsibility, so that falls in line with feeling it is ok to be unemployed and further dependence on others. The future is rent-a-life. If one never owns anything or accumulates wealth there will have to be some big social safety nets and/or basic income. Most people will probably decide to live in virtual reality instead of the real world. Toss them in a tiny apartment with their gear and they will be out of the way.
We are being prepared for a society with much less ownership and a sharing economy. Kids now don't dream of buying houses and cars. They don't want responsibility, so that falls in line with feeling it is ok to be unemployed and further dependence on others. The future is rent-a-life. If one never owns anything or accumulates wealth there will have to be some big social safety nets and/or basic income. Most people will probably decide to live in virtual reality instead of the real world. Toss them in a tiny apartment with their gear and they will be out of the way.
Have you read "Ready Player One"? It's a book that basically reveals just what you said... people just live in the virtual world instead because everything sucks.
The system is encouraging automation. Employees sue for sexual harassment, race/age/gender discrimination. You don't have to pay machines for healthcare and pensions.
We are being prepared for a society with much less ownership and a sharing economy. Kids now don't dream of buying houses and cars. They don't want responsibility, so that falls in line with feeling it is ok to be unemployed and further dependence on others. The future is rent-a-life. If one never owns anything or accumulates wealth there will have to be some big social safety nets and/or basic income. Most people will probably decide to live in virtual reality instead of the real world. Toss them in a tiny apartment with their gear and they will be out of the way.
I believe this may be fairly accurate. A future where you have no privacy and own nothing is the dream of many.
Have you read "Ready Player One"? It's a book that basically reveals just what you said... people just live in the virtual world instead because everything sucks.
Soon to be a major motion picture. I read it last year. I've had my HTC Vive for right at thirteen months and I love VR. But yes, I've said on these forums before that Real Life is going to be pretty dull and nasty, whereas VR is going to be pretty good. Most people will make the rational, logical decision to spend most of their time in VR. When not in VR, we'll be accompanied always by our AR glasses.
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