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Old 05-02-2017, 06:40 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Originally Posted by G1.. View Post
Trump is an ignorant self serving fool ,he won't listen to anyone.Bigger problem is he surrounded himself with all the same type people .
That seems to describe exactly how I felt about Barack Obama, so get over it. We put up with that ass for eight years!
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:37 AM
 
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Trump doesn't follow the laws and the Constitution. If Trump followed the laws and the Constitution, he wouldn't try to EO and tweet his way into making his desires law and the courts wouldn't have stopped his travel ban twice. Congress isn't just window dressing. It is the third branch of our government that must agree with the president's actions.
You mean like how Obama gave millions of illegal aliens a stay of deportation with work permits via EO and by passing congress of which the courts ruled as unconstitutional?
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Old 05-02-2017, 07:56 AM
 
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The so called "ban" was actually a 90 day pause on travel from dangerous countries that Obama himself made a list of.
How do we know that Trump wasn't told about impending attacks and that scared him to action and he was just trying to keep us safe.
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Well think of it this way..


trump said he needed the 90 day ban WHILE he fixed the "broken" vetting system..


wtf has he done to fix it ?

it has BEEN OVER 90 DAYS!! Trump has not changed the vetting system or border security ...



hmmm. Trump was a big fat liar.. Remember Trump claimed a 90 day ban to FIX FIX FIX!!!!! he said they needed the ban to protect us and it was urgent. well if it was so damn urgent why have they done absolutely nothing to change vetting or anything else?


ie the whole thing was a huge lie from day one. If he had got it through as the emergency measure he pretended it was, it would now be extended etc...


lies lies lies , it is all trump knows. And OP is right not to trust a liar like Trump bannon and his evil monkeys.
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Old 05-02-2017, 08:03 AM
 
Location: DFW
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You mean like how Obama gave millions of illegal aliens a stay of deportation with work permits via EO and by passing congress of which the courts ruled as unconstitutional?
Or bypassing Congress with the French Climate agreement and Iran agreement which were treaty's and supposed to have been approved by Congress.

Obama was the worst at ignoring law.
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Old 05-02-2017, 01:08 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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I doubt we are falling into a dictatorship just yet.

It could happen, but it would take a smarter guy than Trump, and a smarter bunch of zealots than Bannon and his bunch to get it done.

An idiot at the top who is easily manipulated is a real danger, but only when the manipulators are already experts when they set about their effort. Bannon is as much a wanna-be grownup as Donald is, so I'm not worried. He's a second-stringer to the likes of Dick Cheney when it comes to manipulation.

And Cheney didn't want the political power. All he wanted was more money. Thank God he never had a lust for real power.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Nope, sorry

The same nonsense has been considered by "the other side" every President since Reagan. The way our government is setup it is impossible for a dictatorship to evolve.

FDR was the last best chance for it to happen and Congress put a stop to is after he passed.
Impossible? Are you sure of that? Think about where we are. We have a President who breaks rules whenever he feels like it and gets away with it. He uses the White House and environs for campaigning even though it's illegal, lies constantly and no one does a thing about it. Where are all the roadblocks that were intended to keep someone like him making himself supreme commander with no limits to his power and no one to stop him? Look at the rise of Putin and you can draw some parallels between the two men. He doesn't even have to change the constitution to keep himself in power, he can just rig elections to pass the position on to his children, if anyone tries to oppose him, he will shut down the mail, shut down polling places or just rig the election and anyone who dares to run against him will likely end up in a coma due to poisoning.
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Old 09-03-2020, 03:56 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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I doubt we are falling into a dictatorship just yet.

It could happen, but it would take a smarter guy than Trump, and a smarter bunch of zealots than Bannon and his bunch to get it done.

An idiot at the top who is easily manipulated is a real danger, but only when the manipulators are already experts when they set about their effort. Bannon is as much a wanna-be grownup as Donald is, so I'm not worried. He's a second-stringer to the likes of Dick Cheney when it comes to manipulation.

And Cheney didn't want the political power. All he wanted was more money. Thank God he never had a lust for real power.
He's got Machiavelli (commonly called Bill Barr) that guy is scary and he is not stupid
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Old 09-03-2020, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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The "Liar-in-Chief" is no longer in office. He was replaced on Jan 20th, 2017.
I guarantee you, Trump does not think he is a dictator. That was the last guy also. "I won." — Barack Obama.
We are not a democracy. We are a Republic.
The rallies are not "useless." I like a President that likes to stay close to the people. That is as it should be. A King separates himself from the people and cloisters himself within his palace.
Mr. Trump conducts much business while at Mar-a-Lago, and even when he is golfing with another world leader.
Were you as critical of Barack Obama, who went golfing the day after four Americans were killed in Benghazi because of his incompetence and lack of leadership and that of his Secretary of State?
I can't even fathom someone actually believing that ^
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Old 09-03-2020, 04:19 PM
 
Location: southern california
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not sure I follow you
You are saying immigration limits from countries with high terrorist profile is bad ?
Cities that defy immigration law give federal money to illegals and support organized cartel gangs in other words cities that do not protect and support their citizens Should be funded??
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Old 09-03-2020, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Wait now, hear me out.{snip}

Why should we? Did the whole Russian collusion hoax not work out for you?
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