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Old 05-01-2017, 08:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Redd Jedd View Post
Correct.

Article 1, Section 5 notes

Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behaviour, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a Member.

So if he was referring to the Senate rules, he would have said so. but he did not.

"Donald Trump has blamed the US constitution for the problems he has encountered during his first 100 days in office.
In an interview with Fox News to mark the milestone, the Republican called the system of checks and balances on power “archaic”.
“It’s a very rough system,” he said. “It’s an archaic system … It’s really a bad thing for the country.”"

The system of "system of checks and balances" is spelled out in the Constitution, which he finds archaic and bad for the country. Those are his words. Why must we have to parse what he says to get to his meaning or some statements and take his words as fact on others?
Try the full quote:

You look at the rules of the Senate, even the rules of the House — but the rules of the Senate and some of the things you have to go through — it's really a bad thing for the country, in my opinion. They're archaic rules. And maybe at some point we're going to have to take those rules on, because, for the good of the nation, things are going to have to be different.”

“You can't go through a process like this. It's not fair. It forces you to make bad decisions. I mean, you're really forced into doing things that you would normally not do except for these archaic rules.”

“I think, you know, the filibuster concept is not a good concept to start off with,” Trump said
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Old 05-01-2017, 08:27 AM
 
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LOL, Kellyanne is that you??? With the use of "alternative facts " it must be.
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Old 05-01-2017, 08:28 AM
 
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No problem. Here you go.

It's even from FoxNews. So there you go.

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/858097715930116096

https://twitter.com/TrueFactsStated/...03152484417538

The Constitution is the foundation of our system of government.
Where do you see the words 'the Constitution is archaic' ? Don't you know the difference between the Constitution and Senate/House rules they establish by themselves. Trump was speaking of filibusters, cloture, the nuclear option, process, not the Constitution. He's not alone in questioning the rules Congress establishes for itself. With everything wrong about Trump, it's feeble to conjure up things he didn't say.
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Old 05-01-2017, 08:56 AM
 
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Please. Black Eye Harry Reid is/was pretty underhanded too.. Took a good punch though.
But, but Clinton...

Obama did it too.

Anyone else we can throw out as a distraction?
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Old 05-01-2017, 08:57 AM
 
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So, if man is flawed and wrote it. Is there someone else besides man?
Yep.
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Old 05-01-2017, 08:57 AM
 
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Where do you see the words 'the Constitution is archaic' ? Don't you know the difference between the Constitution and Senate/House rules they establish by themselves. Trump was speaking of filibusters, cloture, the nuclear option, process, not the Constitution. He's not alone in questioning the rules Congress establishes for itself. With everything wrong about Trump, it's feeble to conjure up things he didn't say.
BS.

But nice tap dance.
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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BS.

But nice tap dance.
This entire thread is a nothing burger, it is just the lunatic left making crap up, again.
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:02 AM
 
Location: FL
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Total garbage. Put this in the "fake news" category. Pure propaganda.
It can't be "fake news" as he said it on Fox!!!
Donald Trump has blamed the US constitution for the problems he has encountered during his first 100 days in office.

In an interview with Fox News to mark the milestone, the Republican called the system of checks and balances on power “archaic”.

“It’s a very rough system,” he said. “It’s an archaic system … It’s really a bad thing for the country.”
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:09 AM
 
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all the constitution does is lay out the framework for our federal government, define which branches have what powers, and define the rights of the people, and the states. the founders also included the procedure to amend the constitution, but made it difficult on purpose to prevent amendment after amendment being put in to avoid real problems in governing.

also remember the federal government was supposed to be weaker than the state governments, and was never designed to do the things they are doing today.
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Old 05-01-2017, 09:12 AM
 
Location: FL
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WoW, how about you find his actual words to support the claim he said the Constitution is archaic.
Donald Trump slams 'archaic' US constitution that is 'really bad' for the country | The Independent
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