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I'll never understand why we need a ridiculously complex "bill" in order to provide a private market product. Give everyone the ability to buy basic insurance for basic medical services. The terms "insurance" and "pre-existing conditions" are not compatible, that isn't what insurance is. Its something else. Let "insurance" do its job, do something else for "pre-existing" conditions. If my car caught on fire, no "insurance" is going to cover that if I buy it after the fact. I fear we are making something harder than it needs to be and we are trying to force a square peg into a round hole.
the reason you "never understand" is because you view healthcare security as something to be dealt with in a private market.
no other developed nation in the world agrees, and even in the USA we do not do this with every single other major service.
police, fire, education , military and government itself is all socialized. Healthcare is the one missing link.
There is no logical reason to believe that healthcare alone should exclude a large percentage of the population. none and i challenge you explain why the USA is the ONLY modern developed that can't help it weaker citizens. I know you won't try because there is no excuse apart from greed.
They should think it through and come up with a new plan before voting to tear down, or replacing anything. Clearly that is not your position.
This I agree with. They need to slow down on trying to blow it up so quickly. Put the smartest people from both sides in a room and start hashing it out. No ear marks or pork bellies.
I'll never understand why we need a ridiculously complex "bill" in order to provide a private market product. Give everyone the ability to buy basic insurance for basic medical services.
How do you give everyone the ability to make such purchases?
Realistically - There is ZERO chance for a better health care law as long as the Leftists and Media can convince the public that the ACA/ObamaCare is actually viable ..... which it is not. ObamaCare is so convoluted that it can't be "fixed". When they start trying to "fix" the worst of it, it just falls apart. When the Leftists call for "fix", they mean MONEY for the Insurance Company Bailout that was removed. IF the Insurance companies don't get the Bailouts to subsidize the greatly bloated numbers of people included in Medicaid - they won't offer any coverage at all.
The Legislation Bill for the 5 month Budget does not include funding for the Cost-Sharing Reduction Payments to Insurance companies and does not include funding for the Independent Payment Advisory Board (IPAB) which has the power to reduce Medicare spending. You have to remember that part of Obamacare funding was supposed to come from Medicare spending. Throwing more Money toward a dying Law is certainly not the answer. Billions of Dollars in Bailouts annually is not the answer.
On the Other Hand -- the Leftists fought for Planned Parenthood Funding. It shows their real Priority.
I don't think there will be any Health Care Bill until ObamaCare finally implodes.
TeamObama went against the Law and the Courts to prop it up - TeamTrump will simply follow the Laws and explain that neither the Republican or the Democrats in Congress were willing to work for a Health Care Law.
instead of just saying ACA can't work, why not show us. Every other industrialized nation on earth can do it and does. ACA just needs tweaking and when we see how successful it is in democrat states we see it can and does work when states want it to. And that it fails when states like texas refuse to accept funding solely to make it fail.
How is Florida with all its poor, old citizens being doing so well. Blue cross can't stop bragging how well they are doing. If it works in CA, FL right there we have 60 million . so it clearly works, you just have to let it work.
My niece's son was born with tetralogy of fallot, the same condition as Kimmel's boy. She works full time but her employer is too small to be required to provide health care. But her wages are low enough that she qualifies for the medicaid expansion adopted in Arizona. Her son has had one surgery, requires specialized care and more surgeries and lifelong treatment. When Trumpcare passes as written, she will be kicked off Medicaid unless the state wants to continue to pay for it. It won't. Maybe the boy will qualify under Clinton's child health care bill unless Trump is repealing that as well. When he becomes an adult he will not be able to buy insurance at any price. Just another number to Republicans, of course, and money that can be saved for the corporate tax cuts.
My niece's son was born with tetralogy of fallot, the same condition as Kimmel's boy. She works full time but her employer is too small to be required to provide health care. But her wages are low enough that she qualifies for the medicaid expansion adopted in Arizona. Her son has had one surgery, requires specialized care and more surgeries and lifelong treatment. When Trumpcare passes as written, she will be kicked off Medicaid unless the state wants to continue to pay for it. It won't. Just another number to Republicans, of course, and money that can be saved for the corporate tax cuts.
Multiply your story by millions across the country. All these people will essentially be left to die.
The bottom line is, the Republicans simply DO NOT CARE. As long as they can continue to throw more and more money at the already bloated military and give big, juicy, obscenely fat tax cuts to people who already are sitting on the bulk of the country's wealth and do not need any more, they will be happy.
They should think it through and come up with a new plan before voting to tear down, or replacing anything. Clearly that is not your position.
ACA was an abortion that was allowed to live.
Repeal it.
Start over.
My position is I want what the last jackass took away from me. Choice.
The choice to have health care coverage that suits me. A plan that I pay for me and only me.
That is my position. And I will only get back what I had before the great lie.
Repeal in its entirety.
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