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Old 05-02-2017, 05:29 PM
 
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Truly you have a wonderful talent for jumping to inane exaggeration.

To summarize, if someone doesn't see the calamity in even slightly rolling back heavy-handed and ineffective top-down government controls, that person is now... pro-obesity.

For the record I'm 42 with around 11% body fat and very far from a "Republican." And I love chocolate milk.
By all means, serve the kids junk at school. 17% of kids being obese is just not enough. Bring on that chocolate milk, maybe it can be 20% in a year or two.

In U.S., 38% of adults and 17% of kids are now obese, CDC study says - LA Times
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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By all means, serve the kids junk at school. 17% of kids being obese is just not enough. Bring on that chocolate milk, maybe it can be 20% in a year or two.
Hey, I have an idea. Why not increase the controls even more, make the food even more tasteless and "healthy" so that even fewer kids will eat it? Just make the food as unpalatable as possible. The more kids we can get to turn their noses up at the government-mandated controls, the more kids just not eating. You could cure obesity AND maintain some sort of vague political-moral high ground.
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:41 PM
 
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Hey, I have an idea. Why not increase the controls even more, make the food even more tasteless and "healthy" so that even fewer kids will eat it? Just make the food as unpalatable as possible. The more kids we can get to turn their noses up at the government-mandated controls, the more kids just not eating. You could cure obesity AND maintain some sort of vague political-moral high ground.
Or simply do what was already happening which was slowly lower the sodium and fat levels over a period of years. Include more whole grains and vegetables. Not add chocolate and strawberry sugar syrups to milk. Because if the kids are getting increasingly FAT to the point that 17% of the kids in the US are OBESE, there is a problem.
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:44 PM
 
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They'll eat lunch if they are hungry. They won't starve. A kid won't know the difference between bread or pasta made of whole grain or refined wheat for lunch unless someone else tells them the difference.
The taste and texture is completely different.
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:44 PM
 
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Trump unwinding Michelle Obama's school lunch program rules | TheHill

posts claiming 'republicans hate children!' and 'racism!', form a line to the left
So the solution is to go back and give them terrible junk food?

Of course the kids would rather eat chocolate, candy, or ice cream - but that doesn't make it good for them.
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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So the solution is to go back and give them terrible junk food?

Of course the kids would rather eat chocolate, candy, or ice cream - but that doesn't make it good for them.
It's absolutely ridiculous. The kids want chocolate and strawberry milk, they want candy and a soda fountain. Never mind that 17% of kids are now OBESE, they want to make them fatter.
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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Kids are fatter than they used to be and despite the dream that we can solve all problems if we just incorporate enough top-down Federal Government rules, it isn't because of school lunches.

Sorry, this problem is cultural, societal, and generational, and well beyond the power of the government to solve by making sure chocolate milk has 0% fat instead of 1% fat.
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Old 05-02-2017, 05:53 PM
 
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Michelle Obama did not invent her own school lunch program. The program was an emphasis on the Department of Agriculture's dietary recommendations, which have been on the table for more than half a century...those are the recommendations are experts (as opposed to corporations that have high fructose corn syrup to sell).


"Kids and schools" are not "experts" by any means. As a parent, I certainly never let our kids have the final word on what they would eat.
You don't let your kids have ice cream for breakfast? You big MEANIE!
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Keller, TX
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So the solution is to go back and give them terrible junk food?
You tell me. What's the caloric difference between 8oz of 0% Obama chocolate milk and 8oz of 1% Trump chocolate milk?

Okay, I'll tell you. It's about 20 calories. But you folks think the sky is falling. Methinks thou doth protest too much.
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Old 05-02-2017, 06:08 PM
 
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No I have not. If they are not eating those "5 solid meals a week" there is no difference. If they do eat those meals and 16 other meals a week 365 there is no difference. Either way they are not malnourished.
In the larger scheme of life those meals eaten or not arent making an impact.
I disagree. I think that five solids a week can provide a lot of nutrition. It does need to appeal to children through. A fast meal that I used to give my kids was a grilled cheese with a tomato basil soup, a big side of cut up fruit and a small green salad. Milk to drink. I figured even if they ate junk the rest of the day, I could stuff them full of basic nutrients at dinner.

( my kids were in a high school where we just put money on their books, and they bought whatever they wanted from the cafeteria including pizza and soda every day, if they chose- and they did)
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