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Old 05-03-2017, 08:37 AM
 
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Well, in reality, I don't think so. I do believe it is five kids by three different women.
Some of us don't find that at all horrible. I, too, have been divorced twice, married three times. But, I am ahead of trump, I have 6 children, 2 from each wife.
I do not remember everything I have said in barracks or locker room conversations, but I really think I quite likely said things as bad or worse than what he said.
It is amazing how many "perfect" people there seem to be in the world!

I hope you are proud.

The "locker room talk" conversation was a funny one in my house. DH said something like yah I probably said stupid stuff like that in elementary school. I was a kid. I grew up. It can happen.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Which does make it interesting if not earth shattering that a college relationship did not lead to marriage.
Actually, it was not a college relationship. He appears to have met Jager post Columbia, in Chicago, after he moved there to become a community organizer. There's nothing remarkable about the fact that they eventually broke up. But if, as the book claims, his motive was that her race didn't help him further his political ambitions, then it does tell us something about his character.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Actually, it was not a college relationship. He appears to have met Jager post Columbia, in Chicago, after he moved there to become a community organizer. There's nothing remarkable about the fact that they eventually broke up. But if, as the book claims, his motive was that her race didn't help him further his political ambitions, then it does tell us something about his character.
I have to disagree with you here.

It is a rare person who, when faced with love, can clearly identify what will enable them to maintain their self-worth. Love can be all-consuming and, if a person doesn't have something of their own to hold on to, they can lose their self - or define their self - by the other. Loving another and having a career are two completely different things and the trouble comes when one becomes a surrogate for the other. Thus, unless one loses one's faculties entirely, developing a career may be more important than being with the person you love. Once that career is solid, or one's self-worth is clear, love can enter without fear.

Obama ended the relationship with the white/japanese woman at age of 25, and he found himself and what he was passionate about afterward, He also found a life partner. I think it is a beautiful thing.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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You do know that anyone who saw Barack Obama walking down the street "considered him to be black," right? Look at him. What else would he be "considered to be"? To anyone who is not blind he is a black man.
He is a man of biracial heritage with an exotic, international background. That is what he looks like, and that's how everyone in his life thought of him until about age 25.
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Old 05-03-2017, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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He is a man of biracial heritage with an exotic, international background. That is what he looks like, and that's how everyone in his life thought of him until about age 25.
I think many mixed race people (white/black) choose to identify as black instead of white

i's likely to be very complex for each individual, but a big reason is because that's how the world treats them. If you're anything other than white, you're treated differently. That means that mixed people can more easily find people who experience the world in the same way as them in black and minority racial communities.
In America, take a look at the one drop rule for historical reference to how mixed people have been treated, legally.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:00 AM
 
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Obama ended the relationship with the white/japanese woman at age of 25, and he found himself and what he was passionate about afterward, He also found a life partner. I think it is a beautiful thing.
She says they were still seeing each other in in 1991, when Obama was turning 30 and had already been in a "serious" relationship with Michelle for a year.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Alameda, CA
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Actually, it was not a college relationship. He appears to have met Jager post Columbia, in Chicago, after he moved there to become a community organizer. There's nothing remarkable about the fact that they eventually broke up. But if, as the book claims, his motive was that her race didn't help him further his political ambitions, then it does tell us something about his character.
According to the link in the OP Obama asked her at least twice to marry him and she said no both times. Its not surprising the that the relationship did not last particularly after Obama attended graduate school. It would seem clear that both of them were not on the same page on what they wanted out of the relationship.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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She says they were still seeing each other in in 1991, when Obama was turning 30 and had already been in a "serious" relationship with Michelle for a year.
He's not the only person who dated two at the same time.

Personally, I have zero respect towards woman like this. She said no to him twice, and she expected some kind of loyalty from him? Can't respect any women or men kiss and tell, but it is just me. I don't discuss my past relationship with my current boyfriend. It is none of his business. If any of my exes became famous (I believe some would), I would have nothing but good thing to say about them because all of them have taught me something and all of them showed me a great time. Why bad mouth an ex? My current fiance is the best man for me, that is all he needs to know.
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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I think many mixed race people (white/black) choose to identify as black instead of white

i's likely to be very complex for each individual, but a big reason is because that's how the world treats them. If you're anything other than white, you're treated differently. That means that mixed people can more easily find people who experience the world in the same way as them in black and minority racial communities.
In America, take a look at the one drop rule for historical reference to how mixed people have been treated, legally.
Exactly. And there is little doubt that anyone who looks at Barack Obama will see a black man, no matter how hard the OP tries to spin it otherwise. That's how the world viewed him and that's how the world treated him, as a black man. Why wouldn't he identify with that?
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Old 05-03-2017, 09:15 AM
 
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Well that settles it. He's lost my vote!
I'm really shocked!
At a time when America is facing huge challenges, with an unbalanced POTUS, they bring such "news" to...divert our attention??? (Needless to ask) - who cares what an ex president did 30 years ago? Was he black then? Is he still "white"? Maybe blue?
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