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GOP lawmaker: Under the Affordable Care Act, the system for Americans with pre-existing conditions is pretty straightforward: they can’t be discriminated against, they can’t be denied coverage, and they can’t be forced to pay more for insurance. Under the Republican alternative, those protections are eliminated.
The GOP model would empower states to scrap the guarantees for those with pre-existing conditions, forcing Americans who’ve had health issues – or those with chronic conditions – to pay exorbitant costs for care.
hose with pre-existing conditions may need to move.
What in the blazes is wrong with these Republicans? WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!! UGHHHH Is nothing sacred to the Republican Party? Is everything about the almighty dollar?
You know, forcing someone to move elsewhere to get healthcare could be considered a crime against humanity.
My issue with this is what it always is. I live in a blue state and we believe in health coverage. I love my blue state and it is a very successful state economically. That said, why should we pay for people that move to our state for health coverage? We need to be able institute a ten year residency requirement before they qualify. Maybe twenty years. Something so long that it keeps them in the red states where they reside or they can go to another state. I do not mind paying for my own state residents. I do mind getting stuck paying for all the sickest people in country running to my state for coverage. Our insurance costs should be based on the average, not the worst case scenario. We should not be the country's life raft.
GOP lawmaker: Under the Affordable Care Act, the system for Americans with pre-existing conditions is pretty straightforward: they can’t be discriminated against, they can’t be denied coverage, and they can’t be forced to pay more for insurance. Under the Republican alternative, those protections are eliminated.
The GOP model would empower states to scrap the guarantees for those with pre-existing conditions, forcing Americans who’ve had health issues – or those with chronic conditions – to pay exorbitant costs for care.
hose with pre-existing conditions may need to move.
First the entire premise is counter to the truth. They are trying to set up a public/private hybrid.
What will happen to those with preexisting conditions under ACA when there's no insurer?
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My issue with this is what it always is. I live in a blue state and we believe in health coverage. I love my blue state and it is a very successful state economically. That said, why should we pay for people that move to our state for health coverage? We need to be able institute a ten year residency requirement before they qualify.
What about illegals who most certainly have poured into your cozy blue state?
My issue with this is what it always is. I live in a blue state and we believe in health coverage. I love my blue state and it is a very successful state economically. That said, why should we pay for people that move to our state for health coverage? We need to be able institute a ten year residency requirement before they qualify. Maybe twenty years. Something so long that it keeps them in the red states where they reside or they can go to another state. I do not mind paying for my own state residents. I do mind getting stuck paying for all the sickest people in country running to my state for coverage. Our insurance costs should be based on the average, not the worst case scenario. We should not be the country's life raft.
We have a similar issue in NY where retirees move away and then they get sick and move back to NY because they know Medicaid & Medicare get more funding and the hospitals are better than down South.
First the entire premise is counter to the truth. They are trying to set up a public/private hybrid.
What will happen to those with preexisting conditions under ACA when there's no insurer?
What about illegals who most certainly have poured into your cozy blue state?
What does that have to do with the topic of this thread, which is people from states that get a waiver not to cover them, moving to my state for coverage?
I could possibly be forced to move to a different state if I am unable to obtain health insurance in my state if I get dumped off insurance due to pre-existing conditions. I don't want to.
Right now I am 100% healthy but IF I get into an accident or get some future health issue that deems me with a 'pre-existing condition', then if it comes to live or death...I might have to move to a state that doesn't deny people with pre-existing conditions. However, I have the money to pay for the full premium and won't need to be subsidized. But who the heck wants to move just to qualify for insurance that you are paying for the entire premium out of pocket anyway?
The problem with "pre-existing condition" is that it can be defined by the health insurance companies. Even minor things can become pre-existing conditions such as being overweight previously and losing 35 pounds or more. Yep - that can be a pre-existing condition.
Previously having high blood pressure but don't have it any more - can be a pre-existing condition. being pre-diabetic but not officially a type 2 diabetic can be a pre-existing condition.
Having total cholesterol over 200 can be a pre-existing condition.
Having 1 polyp removed as a result of a colonoscopy now puts you in the pre-existing condition category. Some people will choose not to get tested because they don't want to be labeled as pre-existng and lose their insurance.
Having a benign cyst on an ovary can be preexisting condition, or having a mole checked for skin cancer, or having an enlarged prostate or elevated prostate levels in a prior test for prostate cancer. Or having been in a car accident 3 years ago and had a sore back for a few weeks - this can be a pre-existing condition.
Getting bronchitis and going to the doctor for an antibiotic can be a pre-existing condition.
Previously having your appendix removed or your tonsils removed can be pre-existing.
Being allergic to mold or peanuts, even a mild allergy, can be a preexisting condition that means insurance turns you down.
Basically, anyone can have a pre-existing condition even for small stuff and can be turned away from being able to purchase a health insurance policy.
I could possibly be forced to move to a different state if I am unable to obtain health insurance in my state if I get dumped off insurance due to pre-existing conditions. I don't want to.
Right now I am 100% healthy but IF I get into an accident or get some future health issue that deems me with a 'pre-existing condition', then if it comes to live or death...I might have to move to a state that doesn't deny people with pre-existing conditions. However, I have the money to pay for the full premium and won't need to be subsidized. But who the heck wants to move just to qualify for insurance that you are paying for the entire premium out of pocket anyway?
The problem with "pre-existing condition" is that it can be defined by the health insurance companies. Even minor things can become pre-existing conditions such as being overweight previously and losing 35 pounds or more. Yep - that can be a pre-existing condition.
Previously having high blood pressure but don't have it any more - can be a pre-existing condition. being pre-diabetic but not officially a type 2 diabetic can be a preesting condition.
Having total cholesterol over 200 can be a pre-existing condition.
Having a benign cyst on an ovary can be preexisting condition, or having a mole checked for skin cancer, or having an enlarged prostate or elevated prostate levels in a prior test for prostate cancer. Or having been in a car accident 3 years ago and had a sore back for a few weeks - this can be a pre-existing condition.
Getting bronchitis and going to the doctor for an antibiotic can be a pre-existing condition.
Previously having your appendix removed or your tonsils removed can be pre-existing.
Being allergic to mold or peanuts, even a mild allergy, can be a preexisting condition that means insurance turns you down.
Basically, anyone can have a pre-existing condition even for small stuff and can be turned away from being able to purchase a health insurance policy.
All true. People forget that before Obamacare, insurance companies were notorious for taking the insurance premiums for years, then when they did get sick, denying the claim over some obscure test years earlier, calling it a pre-existing condition and denying coverage. It happened all the time, there were endless stories about it. But they would take the money for years first.
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Is nothing sacred to the Republican Party? Is everything about the almighty dollar? 
