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Old 05-04-2017, 07:22 PM
 
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Let us all celebrate how healthcare will be more expensive, particularly for the poor and elderly! Yes, how wonderful that is! Nothing like showing not a scrap of compassion for those less fortunate, while wagging one's finger and pretending that they "deserve it." Gotta love that Just World Fallacy and how it sweeps away all inconvenient facts and truths!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis

Then, on Sunday, let's all go to church and scream about "Jeeeeesus!" and pretend we're all good, God-fearing, family values Republicans. Because hating the poor and sick is TOTALLY the type of thing Christians and people who believe in family should do. Right.

The hypocritical hatred is laughable and overwhelming. I'm looking forward to when the first arse-hat Republican who voted for this monstrosity pulls out the religion-card to defend his vote against everything his faith (and basic human decency) would support.
You hit the nail on the head! You can see it more and more this idea that if something unfortunate happens to a person it's because they're "bad" or somehow "deserve" their misfortune. It's sick!
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:24 PM
 
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The sad situation so many don't seem to grasp.

I care that people see the situations and think of the generation to come as well as they consider themselves. America has issues, we are only 53 yrs from a Jim Crow Segregated Society, and if people understand what that design was all about and how it damaged this nation for 100 yrs, and how the vestiges of it has damaged the last 53 yrs, then they will better understand what I am talking about.

It's time for unity and the abolition of racism.... if we expect to go forward as a nation. Otherwise we will descend into chaos, and that chaos will be confounded, because there are many white people who no longer care for any element of the old Jim Crow Ideology. They will stand against those who try to resurrect the old Jim Crow elements and support for the Old Confederate system.

American has to come to term, the Confederacy Lost, and they are Treasonous Against America as we know it under the system of the Union Established United States. Some can't wrap their minds around it, but they need to awaken and see that the Confederacy never ceased to wage battles, they have been doing it in Congress for over 150 yrs. Its time America wise up to it, and know that is why there has been havoc in a nation that should have no poor, based on the Trillions upon Trillions that have been generated in this nation over many many Decades.

When racism is banished America will prosper, but it requires that Equality of Person is respected universally. It requires that people come to learn, that as a nation, the system we have mandates a responsibility by the governance to make and support provision to strengthen its people.

Go and read The Preamble of Various States, then people can understand the responsibility unto the people that is core in this Democracy. Then people can stop talking about what the government should not do, and learn more about the what the government should be doing and must do, to support the standard of Life that Americans claims to support for the American People.

LEARN MORE.... or we dive into chaos in a ways that destroys more than we can imagine. We cannot go backwards and those who lust for any era or period of the past, are a constant danger to the stability of America.

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Old 05-04-2017, 07:26 PM
 
Location: FL
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I would like to see the Senate Democrats propose it. They need to go on record supporting single payer. Let the GOP shoot it down on record as well.
Exactly! Hopefully, it will happen.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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What soul?
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:28 PM
 
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If God is good this will die in the Senate.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:29 PM
 
Location: NYC
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Originally Posted by Rambler123 View Post
Let us all celebrate how healthcare will be more expensive, particularly for the poor and elderly! Yes, how wonderful that is! Nothing like showing not a scrap of compassion for those less fortunate, while wagging one's finger and pretending that they "deserve it." Gotta love that Just World Fallacy and how it sweeps away all inconvenient facts and truths!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just-world_hypothesis

Then, on Sunday, let's all go to church and scream about "Jeeeeesus!" and pretend we're all good, God-fearing, family values Republicans. Because hating the poor and sick is TOTALLY the type of thing Christians and people who believe in family should do. Right.

The hypocritical hatred is laughable and overwhelming. I'm looking forward to when the first arse-hat Republican who voted for this monstrosity pulls out the religion-card to defend his vote against everything his faith (and basic human decency) would support.
The poor gets medicaid and the old gets medicare. They should not be given access to public health insurance market which the Obamacare was trying to expand Medicaid and medicare.

Now the new Trumpcare will simply put limits in place requiring the states to pay for these leeches themselves and limit Fed funding.

This means Health insurance go back to offering pre-ACA prices without so many leeches.

You either have single-payer or no ACA. You cannot have a broken single-payer that puts all the premiums on the middle class.

Millennials workers rather give the middle finger and pay the fine than buy overpriced insurance and pay for all the leeches.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Ahh look at you. Democrats pass ACA-Repubs use it to smash them

Republicans work to repeal incredibly popular ACA....Democrats will use it to smash them

And you sit here saying democrats havent learned from the past. LOL.
Since when has Obamacare been "incredibly popular?"
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:38 PM
 
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Good for you. You are the first and only Conservative in this thread to demand your party keep their promise. Everyone else is so busy wooting and celebrating they don't understand how devastating the impact of this bill will be for THEM. It's nice to know there are a few Conservatives who don't have their heads up their asses.
Obama made a lot of promises he didn't keep. I saw zero supporters demanding he live up to them.
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:40 PM
 
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Obama made a lot of promises he didn't keep. I saw zero supporters demanding he live up to them.

For god's sake just stop .
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Old 05-04-2017, 07:40 PM
 
Location: Sunshine Coast, QLD
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Done deal, now on to the senate!

I ask this of not only you, OP, but ALL who are rejoicing at the idea of others suffering.
Exactly why are you so happy? Exactly how will this improve your existence??
Or are you one of those who derives pleasure in the misery, suffering, angst of those who dare think different from you, and therefore deserving of as much suffering as possible?
I'm actually genuinely curious as to how precisely your life will be improved? Do you instantly become rich, famous or good looking? Do you suddenly become a world class athlete?
If it takes THIS to make your life better and to make you truly happier, well, that alone speaks loudly.
I ask only because whether that Bill passed or not, exactly how does that change who and What you are? Either way you're still stuck with you after all is said and done.
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