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Old 05-05-2017, 03:38 AM
 
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Trump is brilliant and correct. He does however realize that there is a large lobby making fortunes on the current system and he isn't ready to try to pass what is really needed. He also knows that Obamacare is failing badly and will have to be replaced for an interim period until such time as it's politically palatable to pass a health care system similar to what Australia has.

ie....you're wrong.
lol, so you support Medicare-for-all, you think Trump supports Medicare-for-all and you are defending this monster of a bill?

This is similar mental gymnastics we saw when people who loved Stalin were sent off to the Gulags and still refused to believe that the great leader Stalin was in any way involved and that there must have been a big misunderstanding.
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Old 05-05-2017, 03:39 AM
 
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Ill always advocate for Universal Healthcare. I simply refuse t let the Democrats off the hook for the ACA blunder which they absolutely own. They had a super majority and pushed ACA on us without a single GOP vote. Yes we could have had an Australian like system. I think Pelosi and company couldn't figure out a way to cash in on it. That's why they went ACA.
Do you regularly vote for Republicans who support Medicare-for-all?

Who are these people?
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:15 AM
 
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The republicans in Congress are the ones who are pushing through Trumpcare! That Trump praises single payer systems just means that he is uninformed and doesnt know what he is talking about. He has admitted this himself. He recently said he couldnt believe how hard it was to understand health care. He just doesnt care about these things at all.
he is not a details man
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:19 AM
 
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If I had to pick a system I would absolutely pick Australia's over ours or ACA.
you do realise that the ACA ( obamacare ) is much less goverment orientated - socialist than the system australia has ?
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Old 05-05-2017, 04:22 AM
 
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Ill always advocate for Universal Healthcare. I simply refuse t let the Democrats off the hook for the ACA blunder which they absolutely own. They had a super majority and pushed ACA on us without a single GOP vote. Yes we could have had an Australian like system. I think Pelosi and company couldn't figure out a way to cash in on it. That's why they went ACA.
no doubt obamacare was a fudge and the least socialist healthcare system ever foisted on any nation but countries must crawl before they can walk

obama was very mediocre as a leader but in a country as right wing as the usa ,perhaps he felt the best he could do was to try and set in motion some kind of thought process nationally about healthcare
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:31 AM
 
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He's probably just trying to kiss up to Australian PM after his recent unmindful insults.

Probably looking to build a Trump Tower or two in Australia while he's still President. Opportunist-in-chief, how unusual.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:33 AM
 
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So?
Why didn't he introduce that model then? Why support a knowingly flawed model if you think there is a better one?
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:35 AM
 
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The fact he is so clueless that saying something like that on a day his govt. passed an obviously flawed health care act is indicative of how -- idiotic he is.

He publicly admitted -- by that statement -- I think there are better systems but didn't bother to make sure we got what I think is a better system.

It proves to me - the goal was not making life better for anybody -- just repeal and replace -- at whatever costs.

That is not a man or a government that cares about people.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:37 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Why didn't he introduce that model then? Why support a knowingly flawed model if you think there is a better one?
We have that model , its called the VA.


Hillary said problems with the VA were cherry picked by repubs and the VA is fine.


that's why we don't have government healthcare, no one to run it.


If obama care was a forerunner it was a disaster of cosmic proportions.


Trump was saying Aussie HC was better than obamacare. Callucutta care is better than obabacare.
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Old 05-05-2017, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Toronto, ON
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Both dems and reps are against medicare for all. They're all whores to the king makers, and Trump is the biggest wh@re of all, so sad.
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