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If you pay $4000 to the State today, and tomorrow you pay nothing to the State and $4000 to the Fed, your tax spending is same.
And that's why implementing a 25% national VAT tax would be no problem. Save on state and local taxes, and pay a 25% VAT. Single payer health care for all would be funded.
It probably couldn't be. Canadians have all kinds of rationing and price controls in place to keep costs down that would not be politically viable here. What we should have is some kind of public option, a Diet Medicare, that is available to anyone who wants it, and it should not be as comprehensive as private health insurance.
Listening to people bicker about America's healthcare is frustrating. The current state of American healthcare is a dumpster fire. The proposed future state of American healthcare is just a slightly larger dumpster fire. Corporate insurance companies and their lobbyists are so deep in the pockets of politicians that there is no extinguisher for this out-of-control dumpster fire, regardless of if Democrats or Republicans are in charge.
As indicated by literally the entire rest of the world, single payer is the only solution.
It probably couldn't be. Canadians have all kinds of rationing and price controls in place to keep costs down that would not be politically viable here. What we should have is some kind of public option, a Diet Medicare, that is available to anyone who wants it, and it should not be as comprehensive as private health insurance.
The insurance industry lives off of rationing and death panels. Do you think providing care at any cost is what makes the industry so profitable:
This is the horror show of the American insurance industry. If the dominant corporate media had any public responsibility, it would be to air stuff like this 24/7:
It probably couldn't be. Canadians have all kinds of rationing and price controls in place to keep costs down that would not be politically viable here.
So does the UK. Tell a fatty or a smoker they can't have that knee/hip replacement, spinal surgery for back pain, fertility treatments, etc., and see what happens.
After all. It was Mitt Romney, not my hero by any means but obviously a smart guy and a religious conservative who brought Romneycare through the Commonwealth Health Insurance Connector Authority, , much of which helped build the ACA showing it can possibly work on a state level.
It would be difficult for you to find a Massachusetts liberal to credit him with anything however. Ignorance and denial of facts are common in liberalville.
Whether Romneycare is sustainable or not has yet to be proven however.
I see now why you started this thread. You just wanted to bash the left and you disguised it as a poll.
Perhaps if we did not spend half a trillion dollars on a defense budget that mostly defends our "Allies" (while our own Southern border has long gone unguarded) we could spend more on things here at home like infrastructure, healthcare and work study and retraining programs for the poor and working class.
Btw, our current 19th century every man for himself health care system is what is unsustainable.
It is. We are going to have to have some debt for a non profit system. Most all countries do. We will have to offset it like other countries do. We will have to throw out other things that aren't as important as national health. I think it's worth it.
America spends $4700 per year in taxes for our for-profit system.
the cost is way out of hand for the budget or the taxpayer
our government (the taxpayers) spend over 1 trillion dollars just on medicare and Medicaid
fy2016 which ended back in October the GOVERNMENTAL SPENDING (not what people spent out of pocket) for medicare 691.6 Billion dollars.... and Medicaid was 368.3 Billion dollars..... and that's not including what was spent with the VA https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/fi...udgetdata.xlsx
let's look at the increases medicare has cost:
in 2000 medicare was 216 billion
in 2008 medicare was 456 billion
in 2016 medicare was 691 billion
what is even more interesting is what the predicted outlays will be in the future
in 2016 medicare was 691 billion
prediction for 2020....963 billion
prediction for 2026....1.383 Trillion
actual Medicaid 2016.....368 billion
prediction for 2020....450 billion
prediction for 2026....616 Billion
that's just the GOVERNMENT costs of Medicare and Medicaid.. on top of that you have the VA..and then what the PEOPLE are already paying for private insurance
And that's why implementing a 25% national VAT tax would be no problem. Save on state and local taxes, and pay a 25% VAT. Single payer health care for all would be funded.
not a VAT on top of the income tax.....but a consumption tax (sales tax) in place of the income/estate/corporate/luxury taxes
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