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Old 05-09-2017, 07:09 PM
 
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Im guessing i would get different answers in the real world cause this is too much i dont know where to start
Admitting your problem is the first step to recovery.

Down with the state.
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:10 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Wanting to help others isn't macho enough.
There's a prime example of what's wrong about left wingers.

There's nothing wrong with wanting to help others, it's too bad lefties only want to use OTHER peoples money to do it.
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Buenos Aires, Argentina
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Admitting your problem is the first step to recovery.

Down with the state.
What in gods name are you talking about?
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:29 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I do help, but its obvious that with my limited income i cant change anything. The idea is that if we all pool together some money according to our incomes we could ALLTOGETHER help those in need.

Everyone haves to contribute.

In any case, if you hate helping people, you might be against contributing, but why being against the ones that want to help?
I think we need to worry about the people that have been citizens of this country first. How's Flint, Michigan's water crisis going? You all get upset when a white cop kills a black person, but ignore the fact that there is far more black on black crime. Why is it only black lives matter when it's a cop who does the killing? What about when the bakery didn't want to bake a cake for the gay wedding? Why force the business to do something that was against their religious beliefs? Why not just go to a bakery that does want to give them business. I'm like, if someone didn't want to serve me food, I'm not going to get a judge order to force them, because if I were in their shoes, I'd be pulling a Minnie sweet potato pie trick (anyone who watched The Help will know what I am talking about)

Have you seen the show Decoded on MTV? They are trying to make every little thing white people do into something racist. Even the OK sign. GTFO of here with that crap. This is why people are sick of the left. I used to be a democrat, but then it took a black republican to open my eyes. He got good grades and put himself through school and got a good engineering job at a big industrial plant. All of his hard work, his pension, all of it, went out the window the moment democrat Bill Clinton signed the NAFTA agreement.

Then Obamacare. Rates went up, coverage went down! Before, I was paying only 12 bucks a week. Now it's 54. How the hell is that saving me money? Why is it everytime a democrat is in power, things get worse for me and other hard working folks.
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:30 PM
 
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Improving nutrition for mothers and children.
Unless you are paying that out of your own pocket voluntarily, how does that not involve violence?
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Sum it up. You dont wanna pay taxes then? What would you do with poor people? What do right wingers want to do with poor people?
This is the thing, just because people pay taxes into helping people via a program, what makes you think that money is going to go to the people who need it? We all know politicians are corrupt as hell, so more tha likely they'll keep most of that money to themselves because they really don't care about you, me or the poor hobo down the street.

Best thing to do is fund driving. Let communities set up their own charities and let the people decide for themselves if they want to help fund and maybe even come out and actually help physically. I donate my free time at the nearby St Judes children's hospital helping fund raisers to get money for medical supplies, toys and educational stuff for the kids. And I also help at a farm for abused and neglected animals. I'd rather see people doing this on their own free will, not being forced to do it. Especially since I really don't know where that money is going to.
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Old 05-09-2017, 08:09 PM
 
Location: Austin
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The left needs to stop making everything about government.

The right needs to stop making everything about religion.
Bingo. The most mind-blowing concept you could ever teach a liberal would be that government is not the solution to all problems. Your chances of success would likely be somewhere on a par with Galileo convincing Pope Urban VIII that the earth orbits around the sun. Watch out you don't get your nuts branded for heresy though.

... And such religious idiocy is a good segue into your point about the right. I believe that the social conservatism of the evangelical right is the poison pill that the GOP has swallowed. If they could just eject the Christian right the GOP would be unbeatable and the Democrats would become a marginalized party perpetually garnering a whopping 20% of the vote. Conservative politicians should stick to their significant strengths like economics, jobs, defense and law and order and get the hell out of bedrooms bathrooms and wombs.
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Old 05-09-2017, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Bingo. The most mind-blowing concept you could ever teach a liberal would be that government is not the solution to all problems. Your chances of success would likely be somewhere on a par with Galileo convincing Pope Urban VIII that the earth orbits around the sun. Watch out you don't get your nuts branded for heresy though.

... And such religious idiocy is a good segue into your point about the right. I believe that the social conservatism of the evangelical right is the poison pill that the GOP has swallowed. If they could just eject the Christian right the GOP would be unbeatable and the Democrats would become a marginalized party perpetually garnering a whopping 20% of the vote. Conservative politicians should stick to their significant strengths like economics, jobs, defense and law and order and get the hell out of bedrooms bathrooms and wombs.
Yeah, I'm not big into religion. When the LGBT were fighting for marriage, I believe the government should have taken this opportunity to butt out of marriage altogether. It's ridiculous that we should have to go to the government to ask for permission if we want to marry someone or not. It's none of their damn business!
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Old 05-09-2017, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Houston
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Yeah, I'm not big into religion. When the LGBT were fighting for marriage, I believe the government should have taken this opportunity to butt out of marriage altogether. It's ridiculous that we should have to go to the government to ask for permission if we want to marry someone or not. It's none of their damn business!
You can marry without government. You just are not entitled to the benefits or held to certain responsibilities that comes with a government marriage.
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Old 05-09-2017, 09:08 PM
 
Location: Gone
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You can marry without government. You just are not entitled to the benefits or held to certain responsibilities that comes with a government marriage.
Ummm, that is never gonna happen and since the government is not allowed to discriminate those married under the law will be entitled to the same benefits as any other married couple.
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