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Old 05-14-2017, 06:40 AM
 
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True. All due to oil. Read. for instance, the book by Stanley Marcus (of Neiman-Marcus), whom discusses how Oil created the Texas economy, and Neiman's, back in the 1950s (Minding the Store).

Without Oil, Houston would not exist as it does. Argue as you will, it all goes back to black tea. There is also a book (I do not recall the name) that talks of how Houston became the home of the Texas space industry, due to Houston's wealth (and influence) due to its oil riches.

I know of what I speak. I live in Fort Worth, home of many oil pioneers, that made their wealth from oil, such as from Odessa (yet, choose not to live in that area). I grew up with the Wagners, I knew of the Hunts, knew the Rife's, and many others (due to my father's legal practice).

Heck, watch Dallas to get some idea of the influence oil had on the development of our state.
California's economy was built on booms from natural resources as well.
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Old 05-14-2017, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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California's economy was built on booms from natural resources as well.
California's economy was built when Republicans ran the state. Whether or not the Dems will be able to maintain it is uncertain...Silicon Valley has certainly kept Cali from going down.
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Old 05-14-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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Calif's "trump card" it its weather since most of the state never gets snow; if the climate became like even NYC or DC; a LOT of people would leave cause of its stupid laws.

I say that cause where I live here in Bullhead, Needles on the Calif side of the river's lost a LOT of businesses here to Arizona. Same climate and so on. Poor Needles doesn't have a regular grocery store anymore; the people there on WIC and so no have to shop here and, it's 100 percent legal.
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Old 05-14-2017, 09:46 AM
 
Location: A Nation Possessed
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Sorry cons, facts don't lie.

#FactsTrumpAlternativeFacts

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Sure, that's why every other person I see in my area has moved from California spouting off how horrible things are there...
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Old 05-14-2017, 10:37 AM
 
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...Without Oil, Houston would not exist as it does. Argue as you will, it all goes back to black tea. There is also a book (I do not recall the name) that talks of how Houston became the home of the Texas space industry, due to Houston's wealth (and influence) due to its oil riches.

I know of what I speak. I live in Fort Worth, home of many oil pioneers, that made their wealth from oil....
You're right, a great deal of wealth and power in Texas comes from oil. It's also where I believe some of the climate change denial industry is sourced. Accepting climate change means discouraging the use of fossil fuels, that's bad for Texas, so the oil industry pumps money into climate denial operations.
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Old 05-14-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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California also has rampant wealth inequality, due largely to "protections for undocumented people." In the wealthier parts of California you have wealthy white and Asian people and poor black and brown people, and not much in between. And this is a desirable setup that should be emulated?

And the article provides no proof that coddling of illegal aliens is the reason for the large economy, they just quote Jerry Brown saying that the state is 39% hispanic. And? Man, the news(sic) media in this country has hit rock bottom.
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Old 05-14-2017, 12:26 PM
 
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Sure, that's why every other person I see in my area has moved from California spouting off how horrible things are there...
I have been amazed in the past several years at the huge number if people I have met while in WA, OR, ID and TX, (and a couple in WY), with the same story.
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Old 05-14-2017, 12:30 PM
 
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Hey OP, it's Mother's Day, not April Fool's Day. California is nearly a third world state. You're either rich or you're broke. Not much in between save for a shrinking number of areas.
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Old 05-14-2017, 12:34 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I have been amazed in the past several years at the huge number if people I have met while in WA, OR, ID and TX, (and a couple in WY), with the same story.
I moved here because of the weather, surf yada yada. Once you have kids and get drilled with taxes every year to pay for the "disadvantaged" you plan your escape and take that million somewhere cheaper to live that isn't a mess. I love CA, hate the politics. I'll visit often so you'll still get my tourist money.
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Old 05-14-2017, 12:35 PM
 
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HAH! Fake news has already been removed. A big fat 404 now.

The internet said it so it must be true!

I'm a born and raised Californian and, aside from Silicon Valley which is their own bubble of tech and over priced homes (much the same as DC), the state is a mess and almost bankrupt again. Even with multi billion $ tax hikes every two years since Brown took office.

If you do not live here you have no clue so stop pretending to.
I live in Illinois. Bad here, but, from what I'm hearing, you guys have it worse.
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